[Vision2020] State Budget Deficits

[Joe Campbell]

Are you a member of the CIA? And how can you say in one sentence "The
best evidence provided ..." and in another "No one will ever know for
sure ..."? Those of us who are not in denial know for sure. There was
NO credible evidence of WMD. The only people who say otherwise are
folks who refuse to admit that Republicans can make mistakes.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> You are wrong on both counts. The best evidence provided by the CIA was that there were WMDs. It is quite possible that there were, but were removed before the inspections. No one will ever know for sure, one way or the other. Just what do you call biological weapons? It is a known fact that Iraq uses them.
> Richard Armatage ousted Wilson's wife. Although she had been an undercover agent, she no longer was. She worked at the Pentagon and drove to work there.
> Roger
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Reggie Holmquist reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:39:53 -0800
> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State Budget Deficits
>
>> No, the evidence at the time was not that there were WMDs.  For example, the
>> Bush administration knew that there was no yellow-cake uranium, but said
>> there was anyway.  and when Joe Wilson reported on this Dick Cheney outed
>> his wife as a CIA agent in retribution.
>>
>> -Reggie
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:35 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I won't argue that the war in Iraq was not a mistake. It may have been, but
>> > the evidence at the time was that there were WMD. The fact that none were
>> > found does not mean that they did not have any. They did use biological
>> > weapons on the Kurds. You are right that it contributed to the debt. I do
>> > not think that it had anything to do with the recession.
>> > Roger
>> > -----Original message-----
>> > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>> > Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:21:20 -0800
>> > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State Budget Deficits
>> >
>> > > There was nothing "necessary" about the invasion of Iraq. It was a
>> > > mistake and got us debt and a recession. I'd like to see some
>> > > conservatives admit that.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:25 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>> > > > Joe
>> > > > You make a false analogy by claiming that someone values  war and
>> > incarceration more than education. No one values war for the sake of war,
>> > but it is sometimes necessary. The same goes for incarceration.
>> > Incarceration is necessary to keep dangerous people from harming the public.
>> > I think that we could agree that there are people in prison who would be
>> > better dealt with in an other manner.
>> > > > Roger
>> > > > -----Original message-----
>> > > > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>> > > > Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:44:28 -0800
>> > > > To: Jeff Harkins jeffh at moscow.com
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State Budget Deficits
>> > > >
>> > > >> It is a relative claim: you value war and incarceration MORE than
>> > public education. Otherwise, you'd be for tax increases to pay for the war
>> > started by the last President, the one he put on "credit cards." Your
>> > regular comments support this more than your denials refute it.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I'll take the statement back when I see a change in the bs rhetoric
>> > that you and your conservative friends have been throwing out.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Jan 4, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> It is a matter of values, not money. You and Jeff no longer value
>> > > >> >> public education; you are more willing to put your money toward war
>> > > >> >> and incarceration than education, for instance. That's how I see
>> > it.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> > Your personal comments reflect exactly who you are.  You could not
>> > be more wrongheaded.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I do not have to defend my 30 years in public education to you.  And
>> > you know nothing about my commitments to improve education, at all levels.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > As I have suggested numerous times, I see very little gained in
>> > interacting with you.  Perhaps we can share the blog space and choose not to
>> > interact at a personal level.  Let's focus on the issues at hand.
>> > > >>
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