[Vision2020] Good morning campers - It's installment #19-Encouragement

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Is it stealing when taxes are imposed to pay for public schools?  Some contend that taking money for this activity is against their will.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persuasive_definition
See: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oversimplification

If parties to this dispute just want to show their ignorance and flaunt simplistic statements of virtues/values then ignore the following:

"When comparing two statements or theories, the clearer, less vague and ambiguous statement(s) of and definitions used in each, the better the chance of meaningfully determining the truth, or in the case of values, the correct application, or least discovering the roots of agreement or disagreement"  

Otherwise, make an honest effort to define terms and state/justify supporting/probabilities and values so that an honest attempt to resolve or at least clarify can be made.

For example of how to do this see first four paragraphs of the essay at:
http://adaptedphilosophy.com/content_pdfs/pragmatism/james_pragmatism_ch2.pdf


w.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: the lockshop 
  To: Chuck Kovis ; Jeff Harkins ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Good morning campers - It's installment #19-Encouragement


  Its funny how taking what belongs to others against their will is the sin of 
  stealing when it comes to you and me but its "spreading the wealth around" 
  when it comes to "progressive" government.

  g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>
  To: "the lockshop" <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>; "Jeff Harkins" 
  <jeffh at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Good morning campers - It's installment 
  #19 -Encouragement


  > Who said anything about taking it away from them?  I said, why should 
  > ANYONE
  > sacrifice when 25 people make 1 billion dollars apiece.  Funny that 
  > gluttony
  > is a sin when it comes to food, but not when it comes to "earning" money.
  > Just an observation.  Chuck Kovis
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "the lockshop" <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>
  > To: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>; "Jeff Harkins" 
  > <jeffh at moscow.com>;
  > <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:45 AM
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Good morning campers - It's installment
  > #19 -Encouragement
  >
  >
  >> Why is it a "vice" to make a large sum of money? For all you know these
  >> guys are donating 50% of their after tax income to charity. To decide 
  >> that
  >> someone else has "too much money" and then decide to take some of it away
  >> at gunpoint because you think you could spend it more wisely strikes me 
  >> as
  >> far more immoral.
  >>
  >> g
  >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  >> From: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>
  >> To: "Jeff Harkins" <jeffh at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  >> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:32 AM
  >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Good morning campers - It's installment
  >> #19 -Encouragement
  >>
  >>
  >>> Why should ANYONE sacrifice when the top 25 hedge fund managers each 
  >>> made
  >>> more than a BILLION dollars in salary and bonuses last year?  Talk about
  >>> virtues.  How about vices?  Chuck Kovis
  >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
  >>> From: "Jeff Harkins" <jeffh at moscow.com>
  >>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:08 PM
  >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Good morning campers - It's installment #19 -
  >>> Encouragement
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>  Sometimes facts are scary things.  And sometimes scary facts encourage
  >>>> people to do things to deal with the scary facts.  Sometimes it takes
  >>>> scary things to encourage people to address their fears and deal with
  >>>> reality.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>> "After years of deficit financing for state and local government (dems
  >>>>> and repubs), it is time to begin to pay for the music.
  >>>>>
  >>>> Fact
  >>>>> "Here is a teaser intro to get folks to focus on the problems we are
  >>>>> now
  >>>>> facing.  Before you gnash your teeth and wring your hands in despair,
  >>>>> be
  >>>>> sure to link to the full article - then let the gnashing begin.
  >>>>>
  >>>> Fact
  >>>>> "We, as a nation and a republic of states are in serious fiscal
  >>>>> condition.  Our present situation is NOT SUSTAINABLE.  Each U.S.
  >>>>> citizen
  >>>>> is going to sacrifice - over the next several decades."
  >>>>>
  >>>> Fact
  >>>>
  >>>> Let's make the sacrifice count.  Let's do it well.  Let's fix the
  >>>> problem.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
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