[Vision2020] UC Davis Pepper Spray - What really happened

[Jay Borden]

Well, as is with most of your "guesses", you would be wrong.

No surprise there.

All I have suggested is that there is "more than meets the eye" than was originally presented in the original video.


Jay


-----Original Message-----
From: Moscow Cares [mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:15 PM
To: Bill London
Cc: Jay Borden; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] UC Davis Pepper Spray - What really happened

I'm guessing that Mr. Borden would defend the Ohio national guard in killing those four students  at the Kent State University campus on May 4, 1970.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:00 PM, "Bill London" <london at moscow.com> wrote:

> Are you seriously saying the cops were at risk from a bunch of skinny sophomores with backpacks full of books?
> why didn't the cops just start hauling the students away?
> sorry, but there just is no justification for the pepper spray to a passive non-violent group of people sitting on the ground
> BL
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Borden
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:40 PM
> To: london at moscow.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] UC Davis Pepper Spray - What really happened
> 
> I see it much differently.
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> At every step of the way, the protesters had control.
> 
> When the protesters follow and SURROUND the police officers, and begin chanting 'if you let them go we'll let you leave' it paints a much different picture.
> 
> Jay
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill London [london at moscow.com]
> Received: Wednesday, 07 Dec 2011, 1:27pm
> To: Jay Borden [jborden at datawedge.com]
> CC: vision2020 [vision2020 at moscow.com]
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] UC Davis Pepper Spray - What really happened
> 
> 
> The Davis police lost the PR battle for a good reason.
> As this video makes clear, the protestors did not ONCE respond with violence (no rocks thrown, etc).
> The cops had a force large enough to clear those 20 students away—and the cops were obviously in no real danger.
> The pepper spray was a vicious and unnecessary attack, reminding me of the firehoses and attack dogs used in the South against the civil rights marchers
> BL
> 
> From: Jay Borden <mailto:jborden at datawedge.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:55 PM
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] UC Davis Pepper Spray - What really happened
> 
> 
> The original video has long since gone viral… and thus the police and the Chancellor have already lost the PR battle.
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> But here is a YouTube video showing the precursor for the UC Davis “occupy” debacle.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&feature=share
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> Jay
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