[Vision2020] Say What?

[Saundra Lund]

Yes, Jay:  do watch the video again because Nasty Newt said nothing about summers for his notion of paying “poor” kids to work in the schools, only about afternoons.  The “early & practical” part was how young to start the “poor” students down that path.

 

Besides, it would be really difficult to pay “poor” children with “no work habit” to work in schools when schools aren’t open.  Duh.  I suspect some public school districts have found ways to continue to run summer schools, but my understanding is those programs have become few & far between over the last decade or so as funding has eroded.  Perhaps someone with more current information could address that aspect.

 

And, I never said anything about race – where do you get that from my post???  I talked about the children from economically disadvantaged families . . . 

 

Since you’re a fiscal conservative, it’s interesting that you completely neglected to address the funding question.  The money to pay anyone – even children – has to come from somewhere, and when schools don’t have money for textbooks or teachers or to repair unsafe schools, the funding issue seems to be something even Nasty Newt wants to avoid discussing, perhaps because he has no problem further gutting actual education to fund his bigoted idea.

 

Yes, the people I know would be recoiling in horror & disgust regardless of who made such bigoted comments.

 

But, then I guess you don’t find the assumption that children from “poor” families don’t have “work habits” and any clue about earning money “honestly” offensive.

 

Bully for you.

 

Saundra

 

 

From: Jay Borden [mailto:jborden at datawedge.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:31 AM
To: Saundra Lund; Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020
Cc: Penni Cyr
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Say What?

 

Ok, I get it… folks here don’t like Newt Gingrich.  (He’s not really on my Christmas list either)…

 

But unless I’m missing some larger context outside the video link… Gingrich never said or implied that academic time would be traded for work  (in fact, he said something to the effect of “afternoons and summers” and “when practical/feasible” (but I’d have to watch the video again to get the exact phrase)… 

 

Gingrich never said (or implied) that this has anything to do with black kids vs. white kids vs. whatever race you want to inject into the issue…

 

>From what I can tell, this is a “speaking out loud” moment where New Gingrich is talking about ideas for after-school job programs for kids…  

 

It seems largely the folks that are balking at this speech are more sneering at the messenger than the idea… and letting the idea get muddled up the process.  

 

Would folks be recoiling in horror and disgust if it were Bill Clinton that was up there uttering the same words?

 

 

Jay

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Saundra Lund
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:09 AM
To: 'Tom Hansen'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'
Cc: 'Penni Cyr'
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?

 

I know I’m late adding my two cents & that some really great comments have already been made, but I’m absolutely stunned that at a time when virtually everyone with a brain understands that our children need more – not less – education, Nasty Newt apparently finds education so unimportant for children from economically challenged families that they can “afford” to lose academic time out of their school day to learn work habits.

 

And, I’m even more stunned that at a time when some have incessantly whined about the imaginary “class warfare” of the 99% against those morally bankrupt on Wall Street & in Big Business, those same folks aren’t complaining about Nasty Newt’s very real class warfare against the children from socio-economically disadvantaged families by advocating cutting their academic time.    And, frankly, I don’t know what’s wrong with people who don’t find the grossly inaccurate stereotyping behind Nasty Newt’s “plan” absolutely disgusting.

 

I also found myself wondering where Nasty Newt thinks the money to pay for his brilliant <snort> idea would come from, particularly at a time when all too many schools lack funding for basics like textbooks, health & safety facilities repairs, etc.?  I guess he thinks money must grow on trees to pay for his inane ideas.

 

Now, remind me again:  which groups support class warfare???

 

 

Saundra Lund

 

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:08 PM
To: Moscow Vision 2020
Cc: Penni Cyr
Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?

 

"A very poor neighborhood. You have kids that who are under law required to go to school. They have no money. They have no habit of work. What if you paid them part-time in the afternoon to sit in the clerical office, and greet people when they came in? What if you paid them to work as an assistant librarian? 

 

Let me get down to the janitor thing, and these letters are written that janitorial work is really hard and really dangerous and this and that.  Fine.  So what if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop the floor and clean the bathroom. And you pay them."

 

- Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich (December 1, 2011)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gsc9ElmJEs

 

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Seeya round town, Moscow.

 

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

 

"If not us, who?

If not now, when?"

 

- Unknown

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