[Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &EconomicallyChallenged Parents
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 6 22:00:14 PDT 2011
Roger,
Upon a more careful reading - the one I should have done the first time- I see that I am completely wrong, and therefore will not be substantiating my comment/question.
My apologies for my error.
Sunil
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:15:54 -0700
> From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &EconomicallyChallenged Parents
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> -----Original message-----
> From: Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:20:11 -0700
> To: vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &EconomicallyChallenged Parents
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> > Roger,
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> > Every day I see adults who are unqualified to teach a dog to sit, let alone a kid to drive. No, any adult should not be allowed to teach kids to drive. Good, qualified teachers should do that.
> >
> > In another response you say that its a hardship to keep raising prices.
> >
> > You do realize that the legislature has raised the price, and someone who will benefit directly from getting schools out of driver education got to use the state government to increase her income.
> >
> > Do you agree that's wrong?
> Me- I don't know if I do or not. Please explain who she is and how she will benifit.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:12:30 -0700
> > > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > > To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & EconomicallyChallenged Parents
> > >
> > > Then change the law requiring a class per se and go to a proficiency test and allow kids to be trained by any adult. I won't disagree with your second statement.
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> > > Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:48:19 -0700
> > > To: lfalen at turbonet.com, v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm, vision 2020vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & EconomicallyChallenged Parents
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> > > > Roger,
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it meaningless for you to say "Train your own kids," when Idaho law requires a class for drivers under 17?
> > > >
> > > > You say "Fees are too high." The Republican party-line vote will make these classes MORE expensive, and maintains the requirement these drivers take a class.
> > > >
> > > > Sunil
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:29:35 -0700
> > > > > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > > > > To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & Economically Challenged Parents
> > > > >
> > > > > Genesee charges $165.00, On April 11 there is a public hearing to raise it to $225.00 on May 1. Fees are getting too high. Train your own kids> > > Roger
> > > > > -----Original message-----
> > > > > From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> > > > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:20:21 -0700
> > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & Economically Challenged Parents
> > > > >
> > > > > > The hits just keep coming, and it's absolutely *disgusting* to me the real
> > > > > > motive behind so many is to improve the lot of for-profit businesses while
> > > > > > harming the least among us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If these GOP legislators had any shame -- which they've proven time & again
> > > > > > this legislative session that they don't -- they would have, in tandem with
> > > > > > this hair-brained idea, done away with mandatory driver-training program for
> > > > > > those under 17. I know the "quality" of some of these for-profit driving
> > > > > > schools, and they certainly are no more capable than many parents can do
> > > > > > without having to shell out $350. Currently, MHS charges $135, so an
> > > > > > increase to $350 would be a whopping 40% increase, and increase many
> > > > > > families could ill-afford As it is, the rank hypocrisy of the GOP's motive
> > > > > > is glaringly apparent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/03/31/1587391/idaho-house-to-debate-cutti
> > > > > > ng.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > March 31, 2011
> > > > > > Idaho House to debate cutting driver's ed funding
> > > > > > By JESSIE L. BONNER - Associated Press
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Idaho would no longer help cover the cost of driver's education classes at
> > > > > > public schools, under a bill before the 2011 Legislature.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Republican lawmakers advanced legislation Thursday to strip state funding
> > > > > > from driver's ed classes, essentially ending the $125-per student subsidy
> > > > > > for programs that have been offered through Idaho's public schools since
> > > > > > 1948. The bulk of the money would be redirected into a public school rainy
> > > > > > day account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The changes would leave either students or schools to pick up the slack> > Idaho's wannabe teen drivers already pay $180 to $200 of the total $325 cost
> > > > > > of driver's ed classes, according to lawmakers behind the measure> > > >
> > > > > > Republican Rep. Steve Thayn of Emmett contends his bill aims to spur debate
> > > > > > about education spending.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "It's a matter of priorities," he said. "Should we continue to subsidize
> > > > > > each student that takes driver's training from a public school or reallocate
> > > > > > those funds back into the classroom?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Student fees covered roughly half the total $2.3 million cost of public
> > > > > > driver's education courses in Idaho schools last year. The state reimbursed
> > > > > > school districts for the remaining $1.3 million, at a rate of $125 per
> > > > > > student enrolled in the training courses, using money collected from
> > > > > > driver's license fees.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Republican-dominated House Education Committee advanced Thyan's bill on
> > > > > > a party-line vote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Critics, primarily Democrats, contend the legislation jeopardizes access to
> > > > > > public driver's training courses and will put the cost out of reach for some
> > > > > > families.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Our rural students are driving and they have a lot of responsibilities,
> > > > > > especially in our farming areas. They need to have the training," said
> > > > > > Democratic Rep. Donna Pence of Gooding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > State law requires anyone under age 17 applying for a driver's license to
> > > > > > complete a driver-training program. About 10,000 students took public
> > > > > > driver's ed courses in Idaho school districts last year, according to the
> > > > > > state Department of Education.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Supporters of the changes included operators of private driver's ed
> > > > > > businesses, who contend the subsidies for public driver's ed programs create
> > > > > > an uneven playing field. Private driver's ed courses cost between $325 and
> > > > > > $350, lawmakers said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "You're subsidizing a product that's in direct competition to free
> > > > > > enterprise," said Kim Hatch, whose family operates Hatch's Drivers Training
> > > > > > in Meridian.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Democratic Rep. Susan Chew of Boise countered that the programs were about
> > > > > > safety.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I thought that the reason we were subsidizing it, is so when I get out in
> > > > > > my car I don't have to run into a crazy kid that hasn't been trained," Chew
> > > > > > said.
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