[Vision2020] Postcardgate

Fri Oct 22 15:26:57 PDT 2010

I'm starting to think they're not going to be asking questions from
the audience. I'll stick around just in case, though.

On Friday, October 22, 2010, Reggie Holmquist
<reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu> wrote:
> I'm here. You here, too, Mr. Hansen?
>
> Anybody got any good Qs they'd like me to ask Bouma, now is the time
> to let me know.
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2010, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
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>> As usual you are wrong, as a tiny bit of  Googling
>> would have shown.
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>> Not only do I vote for and endorse, but I financially support
>> a local candidate with strong religious beliefs.
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>> The difference between that candidate and Bouma is that as far
>> as I can tell, the candidate at issue bases their political positions on
>> carefully considered terrestrial information.  To the extent
>> that their religious values agree with my secular values, these values
>> for this candidate are based on terrestrial considerations as well as
>> his religious convictions.  This candidate is also tolerant of religious
>> views that conflict their own and able to appreciate the strengths found in
>> other religious views.  The candidate is not a "one way" bigot as is
>> Bouma.
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>> I am a believer in rigid separation of church and state.
>> Bouma seeks to greatly dismantle that barrier.
>>
>> During the primary, it became obvious to me that Bouma and his
>> associates not only wish to dismantle the church-state barrier, but, in
>> fact, have violated the tax laws by their advocacy at the pulpit of their
>> political views.  Also, by lying to a local pastor, they flummoxed him into
>> providing a prayer room during the primary election day which prayed only for
>> Bouma and candidates with similar religious views  -- another violation of
>> tax exemption laws.  That is why I have concentrated on
>> Bouma.
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>> Please do not misunderstand.  Bouma and his associates
>> are free to advocate anything they want from the pulpit subject to the usual
>> free expression exclusions.  However, if they choose to do that, then, by
>> law, they must pay taxes for that privilege like most of the rest of
>> do.
>>
>> W.
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From:
>>   the
>>   lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>
>>   To: Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> ; Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>   Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:15
>>   AM
>>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
>>   Postcardgate
>>
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>>   Suprisingly, you seem to have missed the point of
>>   my post. You state repeatedly how important it is to you
>>   to know "every candidates" religious positons and how
>>   they would affect their political positions and yet the questions are only put
>>   to a very select few. (one actually) Forgive me but I suspect that having
>>   religious convictions of any type is a major disqualifier for you and
>>   that the answers to any questions you may pose are simply additional
>>   opportunities to poor mouth a believing community member who might have the
>>   questionable judgement, in your view, to want to run for elected
>>   office.
>>
>>   g
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From:
>>     Art Deco
>>     To: Vision 2020
>>     Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:52
>>     PM
>>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
>>     Postcardgate
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>>     For one reason, as far as I know, Schmidt does not attend
>>     and occasionally preach in a church which mixes religion and politics
>>     as Bouma does (as you can see from the quotes below).  Another reason:
>>     Bouma has been asked in a public forum about his religious beliefs and their
>>     relations to his political beliefs -- he refused to answer claiming the
>>     question out of bounds.
>>
>>     Every candidate ought tell us what their political
>>     positions are and why they hold those positions including their religious
>>     reasons, if any.  So far as I know no one has asked Schmidt these
>>     questions.  Perhaps someone should; perhaps you.
>>
>>     In a previous post, I opined that it is not only
>>     important for a candidate to state his positions, but why she/he believes
>>     them.  It is important to understand how a candidate arrives at his
>>     conclusions in order to judge in part his desirability and/or fitness for
>>     office.
>>     http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2010-October/072051.html
>>
>>     W.
>>
>>     If the quotes below do not show you about mixing religion
>>     and politics in a way prohibited by law for non-profit religious
>>     organizations, acts of which Bouma is at least an accessory to, then go to
>>     www.freezechurch.org and do a
>>     Google site search using the single word "Obama"
>>
>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>       From:
>>       Gary
>>       Crabtree
>>       To: Art Deco ; Vision
>>       2020
>>       Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:22
>>       PM
>>       Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
>>       Postcardgate
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>>       "What are Bouma's religious beliefs, how do
>>       they affect his political opinions, how do they affect his attitude toward
>>       certain classes of voters (gays and Mormons, e.g.), and why does he not
>>       have the honesty and courage to reveal and to discuss how his religious
>>       beliefs determine and affect his political positi
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