[Vision2020] Fwd: Re: Additional Shipments Planned on Highway 12

[Tom Hansen]

I'm guessin' that if . . . through some beyond-belief miracle . . . Conoco
were able to fit these 200+ megaloads into 3,600 Geo Metro hatchbacks . .
. it would still require (as it does with the military) a convoy clearance
. . . FOR 3,600 VEHICLES!

Yep.  That's gonna happen, alright.

When it does, let me know.  This would look good on video.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

On Fri, October 8, 2010 2:46 pm, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> That's the point I'm trying to make, though.  If they did break it up into
> 3600
> loads, they wouldn't need a permit, or a bond.  There are no rules I know
> of
> stopping them from sending 3600 truckloads or more over the highway if
> they
> aren't exceptional loads.  They would be using much more gas, to boot.  So
> if
> they give up on the megaload idea over Idaho roads, do you think they'll
> just
> give up and not process all those tar sands?
>
> I understand the concerns about emergency vehicles and the disruption to
> normal
> traffic and the wear and tear on the roads.  But if the idea is to stop
> the tar
> sands production, then this is not the way to go about it.  Breaking the
> loads
> up would solve the disruption to traffic problems, but would increase the
> normal
> traffic on the highway.  I know of no way of stopping that on a public
> road.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sam Scripter <MoscowSam at charter.net>
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 12:45:41 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Fwd: Re:  Additional Shipments Planned on Highway 12
>
>
> Re: Paul R's remarks . . .
>
> Paul:
>
> If each "megaload" could be "sliced and diced" to one-third of the whole
> width
> and one-sixth of total length [off the wall fractions, and very absurd],
> then
> there would be 18 pieces, maybe each on a truck, per megaload. If 200
> loads
> are waiting, that's 3600 or so individual, one-truck loads.
>
> Use your own numbers for slicing and dicing. What do you get?
>
> Who wants all of that traffic? No solution.
>
> Sam
>
> Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> That would be a problem for their engineering staff to tackle, I would
> think.
> Perhaps they'll find that using lots of smaller pressure cookers or
> whatever
> they are is more cost effective now than trying to get overly large ones
> through
> Idaho.  Maybe there is a way to cut them apart and put them back together
> when
> they get there.  Not my problem, really.  I'm just wondering if everyone's
> concerns would go away if they did so.
>>
>>Paul
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> ________________________________
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>>To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 5:48:00 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Additional Shipments Planned on Highway 12
>>
>>
>>Paul Rumelhart suggestively inquires:
>>
>>"If they could break these shipments up into enough separate loads that
>> they
>>fell under the size and weight restrictions needed to get a special
>> permit then
>>all would be right with the world, correct?"
>>[Bolding by Sam .... ]
>>
> I feel safe in assuming, Paul, that if Conoco were to break down each of
> the
> (potentially) 250 mega-loads (per year) to meet ITD's length, width, and
> weight
> limitations . . . perhaps these shipments could progress with minor
> opposition.
>>
>>HOWEVER . . .
>>
>>How would you suggest Conoco go about breaking these down (and the 200+
>> jus’
>>like ‘em)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>http://www.MoscowCares.com/Highway12/LewPortCargo_061810_01.JPG
>>
>>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>>Tom Hansen
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