[Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Mon Nov 8 16:44:28 PST 2010
1. The post of which you complain is a direct response to the previous one in the thread authored by one Gary Crabtree (see the post preceding his for the obvious problems this person has with continuity).
2. "Since it seems that precision is what we are all about all of a sudden..." Let me quote this same Gary Crabtree from this thread, whom you do not appear to be acquainted with: "I firmly believe that stating facts in a discussion..."
Careful readers, if there are some still interested in this thread at this point can draw their own conclusions.
Ever since you deigned to grace V 2020 with your thoughts, you have been as abusive as the worst of us, you frequently fail to answer or give a serious, well-reasoned answers to salient points posters raise challenging your claims, you sometimes post with no other apparent motive than to irritate those you consider your "elitist" inferiors, you sometimes post almost incomprehensible rants possibly being pathetic attempts at humor but giving the impression of serious impairment, and now you bawl and bray like a jackass with a burr up its ass when you get some of the same treatment.
If you want to be taken seriously and to really engage in serious dialogue, then act like it instead of dyspeptic malcontent with a flagrant inferiority complex unhappy because you do not like the hand you have in part dealt yourself in this life.
And the issue is not really your rhetoric, but your willingness to discuss (which includes careful reading and consideration of different points of view) seriously the issues raised.
Wayne A. Fox
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----- Original Message -----
From: the lockshop
To: Art Deco
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
My goodness, this is becoming more than a little tedious. Since it seems that precision is what we are all about all of a sudden let me make sure I understand you correctly. In a thread that has evolved into the relative merits of FOX news and the lack there of, I am now guilty of failing to answer "the question of whether certain (which I take from the rather pompous nonclarification is meant to be me) conservatives rarely offer new approaches to regional/national/global problems and even more rarely give substantive reasons to believe such approaches would actually work and benefit those affected by them."
Is it just me or does this seem a tad overblown, considering the subject?
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Deco
To: Vision 2020
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
The word was "slink" not "prance."
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slink
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prance
Such a misreading seems to provide even more evidence for the problems I have not inadvertently and not without some substantiation attributed to you.
Also, I am dreadfully sorry that my words were not clearer: "deer" was not intended; more like "moose" or wild boar" in accordance with your soma was.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/deer
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/moose
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wild+boar
Nor was "costume:"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/costume
I humbly beg your forgiveness for my inexcusable lack of clarity.
And I duly note your continued avoidance of the question of whether certain [<<< emphasized in a pre-emptive attempt to avoid another misresponse]conservatives rarely offer new approaches to regional/national/global problems and even more rarely give substantive reasons to believe such approaches would actually work and benefit those affected by them.
w.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Crabtree
To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
My gosh! You're right! I don't know why it never occurred to me before. I could simply suggest that those I don't agree with are cognitively disabled, have a reading comprehension problem, are given to over consumption of Keystone light, and that they should put on a deer costume and prance about in the woods during hunting season. It's as though a whole new world has opened up to me. Thank you ever so much for your valuable insights into problem solving.
g
From: Art Deco
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:35 PM
To: Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
We could hardly have a better example of someone painting themselves into a corner, in this case probably for a lifetime, than Gary's responses in this thread. That's why many of his like-minded associates are called conservatives, not in the original meaning of the word, but because they are conceptionally unable to think that new and better ways of solving problems can be found.
w.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Crabtree
To: Garrett Clevenger ; vision2020_moscow.com
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
I don't recall ever mentioning KRFP before the last week of last month. I suppose it's possible but fairly unlikely. Either way, contempt was not what I expressed. What I said was that they had a bias and were purveyors of progressive propaganda. When the stations mission statement plainly states that it's dedicated to "progressive values" and "social change" it's not an expression of contempt it's a statement of fact. I firmly believe that stating facts in a discussion is a more productive thing than using the "you're too stupid to understand" gambit. You're welcome to stick with what ever works for you.
g
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From: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at frontier.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8:48 AM
To: "vision2020_moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
> g writes:
>
> "The elitist (why does that ring a bell?) notion that they just must be right because they imagine that those with whom they disagree are ever so much less intelligent and unreasonable then themselves. Is it any wonder that common ground is so difficult to reach when the opening salvo from the left is so utterly dismissive and contemptuous?"
>
>
> And Gary's contempt for KRFP before it even went on the air is not hypocritical how?
>
> It seems to me Gary ought to take his own words into consideration. Heck, he may even like some things broadcast about Obama if actually listened instead of assuming he knows more than he does...
>
> gclev
>
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