[Vision2020] FW: discharging firearms- was Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Fri Nov 5 14:07:42 PDT 2010
Yeah, I know. But I've already pissed everyone off . . . I figured "Kentucky" would be safer!
Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:58:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: discharging firearms- was Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't
Kentucky? Try every northern county of this
state!
w.
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From:
keely emerinemix
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: discharging
firearms- was Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't
Not really responding to the "bear/use" argument, but along the
same line . . . I continually wonder why the phrase "well-regulated militia"
in the Second Amendment doesn't get more discussion. It seems to me that
a bunch of poorly informed, angry, hate-fueled, paranoid men crawling around a
Kentucky forest in greasepaint with little supervision and lots of powerful
arms and ammo can't possibly be a "well-regulated" ANYTHING, much less a
"militia." If these types of people would submit to commonsense
regulation, order, discipline, accountability and the occasional intrusion of
fact, perhaps we could then consider their gun rights in a different
light.
Frankly, these "militias" are an insult to the brave men and
women in the U.S. armed forces, and the worst possible argument in favor of
wide-open gun ownership and use.
Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
From: dickow at turbonet.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri,
5 Nov 2010 12:43:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: discharging
firearms- was Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't
>
> Thanks, Tom! The
Webster online does NOT indicate that 'to bear' (at least
> in the case
of bearing arms) means also 'to use.' I feel better now.
>
> Bob
Dickow, troublemaker
>
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> From:
vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>
On Behalf Of Robert Dickow
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:01
PM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] FW:
discharging firearms- was Pres mans-up, Crabtree
> doesn't
>
> Well, I guess if 'to bear' means also 'to use,' then my argument does
not
> hold. However, I must say that that definition was not my
lifelong
> understanding of the meaning of 'to bear,' which is means 'to
carry,' as in
> 'to bear a heavy load of wood.' Using the wood is
another thing altogether.
> ("Hand me that match, will ya? I want to
finish up bearing my wood now.")
>
> Bob Dickow, troublemaker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>
On Behalf Of Garrett Clevenger
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:32
AM
> To: vision2020_moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] discharging
firearms- was Pres mans-up, Crabtree
> doesn't
>
> Bob
writes:
>
> "But to complicate things, keep in mind that although
the Constitution
> protects the right to keep and bear arms, it says
nothing about our rights
> to discharge those arms."
>
>
> >From what my dictionary says, "to bear" means "to hold and use"
which in
> the case of a firearm seems to me to mean to
discharge.
>
> If a law prevents someone from using their gun,
how is that not
> unconstitutional? (I'm playing the devil's advocate
here)
>
> I suppose that since there are laws that limit free
speech, I suppose
> interpretation of our constitutional amendments is
very subjective.
>
> gclev
>
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