[Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee

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" Or respect the leader of the GOP when he refers to combat  in Afghanistan and Iraq as "Obama's wars," even though Barack Obama is on record opposing them and George W. Bush on record, historically and verifiably, for having begun them."

On September 14, 2001 bill House Joint Resolution 64 passed in the House. The totals in the House of Representatives were: 420 Ayes, 1 Nay and 10 Not Voting (the Nay was Barbara Lee - D-CA).



On September 14, 2001 Senate Joint Resolution 23 passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals in the Senate were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting (Senators Larry Craig - R and Jesse Helms - R).



Looks as though GWB had a little help in the undertaking. As to the assertion that BHO is on record as opposing the effort, while he wasn't in office for these votes,he did consistantly vote to fund it. Obama has been CiC for two years now. If he really wanted us out, we'd be out. They're his wars now.



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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: robwaters74 at gmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee


  I'm just delighted, Rob, that you were so entertained.  I try.  But, between you and me, we're probably the only ones who find my litany of talking points amusing, so I think we probably ought to acknowledge that most people think that poverty, bigotry, and an ill-informed electorate are kinda serious -- just so, you know, no one could accuse us of being callous in our relative affluence or anything.

  Personally, and with all respect, I find your assertion that voters nationwide are "VERY informed this election" a bit odd, given as it comes, as I'm sure it does, from a man who has not been living among the Yanomami people deep in the Amazon, utterly without access to the media, for the last couple of years.  If the disparity in wealth, security, opportunity and justice between the poor and the not-poor doesn't particularly concern you, then I would think you'd at least take notice of the fact that a significant swath of the electorate -- particularly, this season, the fringe Right and the Tea Party -- can't grasp the simple fact that the Medicare-paid scooters on which they zip to and from rallies come from the government they demonize.  Or think the President orchestrated, falsely, his own birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper three days post-partum.  Or respect the leader of the GOP when he refers to combat  in Afghanistan and Iraq as "Obama's wars," even though Barack Obama is on record opposing them and George W. Bush on record, historically and verifiably, for having begun them.  "Historically" and "verifiably" are important here, Rob, and you might want to filter the information you get through a grid of accountability and verification rather than a sinkhole of vitriol and ignorance.  

  Unfortunately, when you start to examine the issues with eyes not clouded by bias, you probably won't end up chuckling.  The truth about the United States these days isn't real entertaining.  But don't worry -- if you need a good laugh, I'll loan you my copy of "Dumb and Dumber."    

  Keely
  www.keely-prevailingwinds.com





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  Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:49:01 -0700
  From: robwaters74 at gmail.com
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee


  That was very entertaining. I think you hit just about every talking point.

  I'm detecting a little "Uneasiness" on the part of the progressives today. I think you know what is coming tonight, so the voters must be "Ill-informed".

  I think there is little doubt that the voters are VERY informed this election. They didn't hear or realize what "Funtamentally Change America" meant before the last election, but they know now. And they don't like it. 

  No sense talking about Pelosi anymore...She won't be speaker after tonight.

  Rob


  On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:


  obscene widening of the gap between the "have"s and the "have-not"s.  
  Poverty, 
  disenfranchisement, 
  ill-informed electorate 
  tax breaks to corporations
  lingering bigotry 
  hate and racism on the far Right; 
  eight disastrous years of W 
  viciously inane suppositions that he's a swarthy, shadowy, foreign usurper and African anti-colonialst.  
  families struggling to stay in their homes and feed their kids

   
  Keely
  www.keely-prevailingwinds.com





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