[Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

Mon Nov 1 10:58:42 PDT 2010

An assertion right up there with "according to a friend of my cousins hairdressers daughter, I heard that..."

g

From: Dave 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:58 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

Not edited, it was on her website until it started circulating around the web with the Lewis quote attached.

Dave

On 10/31/2010 08:23 PM, Gary Crabtree wrote: 
  Indeed, what in the world would the extreme left do without Photoshop to occupy their copious free time.

  g

  From: Rosemary 
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:13 PM
  To: 'KRFP' ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

  I can't believe how apropos this photo is - on so many levels! Thanks so much for sharing.

  Rose

  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of KRFP
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:20 PM
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

  Like this?

  Oh and a quick search says it was Sinclair Lewis in 1935

  Dave

  On 10/31/2010 12:56 PM, keely emerinemix wrote: 

  Rosemary writes:

  "Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda."

  I'm afraid I don't know who first said this, but I agree, and it's highly relevant this election season:

  "When fascism comes to the United States, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

  Keely
  www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

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  From: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
  To: ringoshirl at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
  Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:41:31 -0700
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

  Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful response to Gary's question.  Many of my family members enjoy hunting and own guns.   From my perspective, however,  an "F" rating from the NRA is a badge of honor.  Ranting about 2nd amendment rights by louts who would be unable to discuss (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings more than a little hollow to me.  Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda.

  Rosemary

  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of ringoshirl
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:23 AM
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com
  Subject: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

  Visionaries:

  Gary Crabtree has requested a discussion from me concerning my low rating from the National Rifle Association.  It's interesting to me that Mr. Crabtree did not attend any of the forums, nor take the time to submit a question during the KRFP interview.  I am also uncomfortable with his vitriolic comments towards people with whom he disagrees politically.  After asking me to respond, he brands my answer "rhetoric" in advance.

  However, he has raised an issue about which some of you may be curious, so I will give a candid response.  

  I have many friends who are sportsmen, belong to the NRA, and enjoy their publications.  I think the organization provides a service that people appreciate.  I also think that, at times, their political action wing has been over the top.  

  This is a powerful lobbying group in the Idaho Legislature.  Many legislators just produce the votes the NRA requests because of its powerful influence.  During my service in the Legislature, I have not always voted according to their wishes.  I have listened to constituents who have contacted me.  I have contacted attorneys to determine whether the legislation was deemed necessary by them.  After weighing all information, I vote according to what seems most responsible, and I never take this lightly.

  Gun safety is very important to me.  In the most recent session, the majority passed legislation stipulating that firearms manufactured exclusively in Idaho would be exempt from federal regulations.  I think that is dangerous and irresponsible.  Our Attorney General said it was likely unconstitutional.  My vote was one of the few against that legislation.

  During my five terms in the legislature, I have not introduced legislation that would threaten anybody's second amendment rights.  I have none planned.  Nobody enjoys a low rating from a political action group, and we should always listen to all sides of an issue before voting.  But our legislative decision-making should not be driven by a desire for high ratings. 

  Shirley Ringo

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