[Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule

Sat Jan 30 13:12:38 PST 2010

Simple solution, CLOSE THE SITE TO CABINS.

That way the people that "own" them won't have to dump "a fortune to  
do any renovations".
The lake will no longer be polluted by sub standard sewage systems.

Win / win

On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bill London wrote:

> I lived in Benewah County and am familiar with the cabins issue.
> The point is that the cabins have been dumping sewage into the lake  
> since they were built with inadequate septic systems years ago.
> The cabin owners are now whining about doing their part to keep the  
> lake healthy.
> It is not a sad situation, it's pathetic
> BL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donovan Arnold
> To: Bill London ; Wayne Price
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule
>
> Talk to someone with a cabin in Worley and you will understand how  
> unfair all the regulations are. A lot of the homes on the lake are  
> older, been in the family for generations. Now the government comes  
> in and wants a fortune to do any renovations on their own property.  
> Many of the regulations are pointless and cost some homeowners  
> everything they have to comply with. It really is sad.
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> From: Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule
> To: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 9:30 PM
>
> MONEY and or influence of the Chipman family on the Palouse, plain  
> and simple.
>
> Or is it a different CHIPMAN family that got the trail named after  
> them? The same trail that used to have a heavy rail track bed that  
> could have been used for light rail transit between Moscow and  
> Pullman. But  then if that would have happened it would have meant  
> few car sales and not needing  a freeway between Moscow and Pullman.  
> Think about it.
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> On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Bill London wrote:
>
>> Why is Idaho Senator Schroeder siding with a Washington resident  
>> against the best interests of the people of Idaho and the safety of  
>> the water of Lake Coeur d'Alene?
>> BL
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron Force
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:44 AM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule
>>
>> Lake cabin permit flap prompts legislation
>> Bill would drop limit on home expansions
>> Betsy Z. Russell
>> The Spokesman-Review
>>
>> BOISE – An Idaho lawmaker upset that regulators refuse to bend the  
>> rules for a Worley-area cabin owner with an inadequate septic  
>> system is proposing legislation that threatens to undermine the  
>> Panhandle Health District’s ability to keep sewage out of North  
>> Idaho lakes and streams.
>>
>> “I’m just getting their attention up there,” said state Sen. Gary  
>> Schroeder, R-Moscow. He added that even if SCR 114 were to be  
>> approved, the health district could re-establish its own regulatory  
>> authority by writing “another rule tomorrow.”
>>
>> The health district disagrees.
>>
>> “Neither the board nor I feel that that’s in the best interest of  
>> the public in general,” said Dale Peck, environmental response and  
>> technology director for the district.
>>
>> The legislation would affect all homes on substandard sewer systems  
>> in the five counties of the Idaho Panhandle. Currently, those homes  
>> have “vested rights” to continue using their old septic systems as  
>> long as they don’t expand their buildings by more than 10 percent.  
>> Schroeder’s legislation would remove the expansion limits.
>>
>> Schroeder said he introduced the measure on behalf of a Pullman  
>> resident who built a big cabin – 2,749 square feet – on Lake Coeur  
>> d’Alene but now can’t get an occupancy permit to use it.
>>
>> That’s because when the owner, Carol Chipman, built the home near  
>> Worley, a condition on her building permit required her to tear  
>> down a 1,248-square-foot cabin and a second 893-square-foot cabin  
>> on an adjacent lot. The newer home exceeds the 10 percent limit,  
>> but Panhandle Health decided to allow the swap. Both 1950s-era  
>> cabins were on substandard septic systems, as is the new home.
>>
>> However, Chipman now is refusing to tear down the second cabin.
>>
>> Schroeder said Chipman’s project came at the same time the 10  
>> percent rule was taking effect, and she was caught in the  
>> changeover. She’d already torn down the larger of the two old  
>> cabins before she and her contractor realized the rules had changed.
>>
>> “I think that they should have the flexibility to solve a problem  
>> for people that are caught in a time warp when there’s a rule  
>> change like this,” Schroeder said.
>>
>> Before 2007, the health district prevented replacement homes on  
>> substandard sewer systems from having more bedrooms than the  
>> structures they replaced. Schroeder said Chipman’s new house meets  
>> that old standard.
>>
>> Schroeder, Chipman and Sen. Joyce Broadsword, R-Sagle, met with  
>> Panhandle Health officials in September to discuss the case, and  
>> all sides came away thinking the problem had been resolved. Peck  
>> said Chipman’s options include developing a compliant drain field  
>> to serve both structures so she wouldn’t need to tear down the old  
>> cabin. On Oct.. 13, she submitted a permit to do just that, “so  
>> that is in process,” Peck said. However, she’s not yet identified a  
>> site for a new drain field.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Chipman’s building permit has been extended to June to  
>> allow for that, Peck said.
>>
>> “I felt she had options,” Broadsword said.
>>
>> Schroeder said if the health district would just give Chipman an  
>> occupancy permit, he’d withdraw his legislation. “I think  
>> government is being inflexible,” he said. “I think a citizen got  
>> caught in the middle of a rule change.”
>>
>> The health district disagrees; Peck said its board will discuss  
>> Schroeder’s bill at its meeting Thursday.
>>
>> Broadsword said she thinks the district could be more flexible.  
>> “I’m not saying the rule is bad – I just think there needs to be a  
>> little more flexibility,” she said.
>>
>> Schroeder likened it to a situation in his district when the state  
>> department of Fish and Game changed the border of a hunting unit,  
>> and hunters who didn’t realize the change had happened took game on  
>> the wrong side of the line. The agency opted just to give warnings  
>> the first year, he said.
>>
>> “I want them to solve this,” Schroeder said. “The rules have  
>> changed. … That’s my only issue.”
>>
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