[Vision2020] Daily News Got It Wrong
Darrell Keim
keim153 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 6 19:25:24 PST 2010
No, not vandalism. I don't generally credit vandals with the mental
capacity to develop (as you so nicely put it) "an organized campaign, if not
a single-minded one."
I do think the development and promulgation of an anti-kirk business list
VERY nicely fits your excellent phrase.
Perhaps said list could be called economic vandalism.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> Darrell, it's true that some community members "took to" not patronizing
> Kirk-owned business. I don't think you would call that "vandalism," would
> you?
>
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:12:01 -0800
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Daily News Got It Wrong
> From: keim153 at gmail.com
> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com
> CC: donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; alford at dnews.com;
> deco at moscow.com
>
>
> Perhaps something along the lines of the "informal" list of Kirk associated
> businesses that written and disseminated by some Moscow Food Coop employees?
> Bad behavior happened on both philosophical sides of this town issue.
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> While that's an insightful story, the insight is not shed here.
>
> To suggest that in response to (anything), community members who disagree
> with Wilson "took to" vandalism suggests not just a direct link, but an
> organized campaign, if not a single-minded one.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:36:18 -0800
> From: donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; alford at dnews.com; deco at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Daily News Got It Wrong
>
> Since it would be a stretch to say that the people that vandalized NSA
> members properties were their friends, nor is it likely to say that people
> driving through are committing the violations of property rights, it would
> seem reasonable to come to the conclusion they were in fact community
> members.
>
> There was a sick joke from the deep south in the 1960s. A federal agent
> investigating a murder found a black man's body in the swamp riddled with
> shot gun blasts from head to toe. When the agent asked the local sheriff how
> the man ended up that way, the Sheriff replied, "It was the worst case of
> suicide I have ever seen."
>
> This denial that community members do not harass other community members,
> reminds me of this story.
>
> The DN isn't playing the politics of the community, it is just reporting
> the facts as it believes them to be.
>
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On *Wed, 1/6/10, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Daily News Got It Wrong
> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Nathan Alford Daily News" <
> alford at dnews.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 1:06 AM
>
> The article also stated that the community was less hostile to Douglas
> Wilson and his church (read cult) in recent years.
>
> I have not found that to be so. In my opinion, the negative feelings
> toward Wilson have been voiced less vociferously, but are more wide spread.
> Acquaintances who used to twit me about what I express about Wilson and his
> agenda, lies, hypocrisy, arrogance, flimflamery, control, etc are now
> agreeing.
>
> In addition, Wilson's playing the fool for Christopher Hitchens seems to
> have lessened his credibility not only here but among some of importance in
> the reformed community.
>
> The *DN* refers to him as a conservative theologian. What a joke! He is
> abysmally ignorant not only of older biblical scholarship, but modern
> biblical scholarship as well. He is in reality an untrained, unordained,
> lay, but very pushy, very phony preacher making things up from a few pieces
> of straw. He is not a theologian, but a crackpot.
>
> And as long as the *DN* keeps printing the rosy filler articles provided
> by Bobby Horrendous of NSA, we all know who is partially controlling the
> paper.
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID 83843
>
> waf at moscow.com<http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=waf@moscow.com>
> 208 882-7975
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* keely emerinemix<http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjajmix1@msn.com>
> *To:* Tom Hansen<http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com>;
> vision2020 at moscow.com<http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:11 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Daily News Got It Wrong
>
> Because I've canceled my subscription to the Daily News, and not for the
> first time, I didn't read the article Joe refers to.
>
> One of the reasons I don't subscribe to the DN is because its coverage on
> many issues involving our town has been lacking, biased, and poorly written
> -- all symptomatic of a disregard for simple, classic journalism. I know a
> bit about print journalism and reporting, and I can say with some measure of
> expertise and experience that its coverage of Wilson, etc., has been
> particularly egregious on all three points.
>
> But if the paper suggested that "community members" who oppose Wilson's
> work and words vandalized ("took to" vandalizing) Christ Church-owned
> businesses and property, without a shred of evidence demonstrating,
> unequivocally and with full attribution, three things, it's become more of
> an affront to print journalism than usual. Those three things are simple,
> Journalism 101-type stuff: Did vandalism actually happen? Did the vandal
> have any agenda whatsoever? And was that person linked to others, like
> myself, who have publicly spoken out against Wilson?
>
> Answer those questions, with evidence and attribution, and you might be on
> to something. But for the DN to toss that out without the building blocks
> of true journalism -- accuracy, evidence, attribution, etc. -- is just so
> much heaving rocks through the windows, so to speak, of its readership. I
> don't expect all readers to notice the fault, but I do expect those who
> commit it to acknowledge that they're in the wrong field.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:00:38 -0800
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Daily News Got It Wrong
> >
> > Courtesy of today's (January 5, 2010) Moscow-Pullman Daily News with
> > thanks to Joe Campbell.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Daily News got it wrong
> >
> > The paper's account of Moscow's recent history (Jan. 2 & 3) was less than
> > fully accurate.
> >
> > For instance, in discussing Doug Wilson's "Southern Slavery: As it Was,"
> > the paper claims "community members took to vandalizing businesses owned
> > by people associated with Christ Church and Wilson" due to controversy
> > over the book.
> >
> > There is not one instance where it was discovered that a community member
> > vandalized "businesses owned by people associated with Christ Church."
> The
> > only confirmed case of "vandalism" was an offensive comment written in
> > chalk on public property in Friendship Square. And no one knows who did
> > that. The Daily News account is irresponsible in the same way that it
> > would be irresponsible for the Daily News to speculate that members of
> > Christ Church vandalized the atheist billboard on U.S. Highway 95.
> >
> > Also, the controversy about Wilson's book was not merely ideological.
> Some
> > of the controversy was because the book was plagiarized.
> >
> > Lastly, the paper writes that NSA "had been on South Main Street since
> > 2002, but changes to city law required the school - and other educational
> > institutions - to obtain a conditional use permit to operate in the
> > downtown business district."
> >
> > But if you look at the law in question, the change was made "to allow
> > schools, commercial schools and/or educational institutions by
> conditional
> > use permit in certain commercial and special zoning districts."
> >
> > NSA began in a residential neighborhood, in violation of the city zoning
> > code. It was duly and clearly informed of its violation. It moved
> > downtown, first to one location near Main Street and then to its current
> > location. Each time its new location violated city code and each time NSA
> > was duly informed. The change in law allowed NSA to remain downtown,
> > contrary to the city code. It was not a burden but a gift from the city
> to
> > NSA.
> >
> > Joseph Keim Campbell
> > Moscow
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Thanks, Joe.
> >
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > “I’ll just speak for our church, in Christ Church. If I found out that a
> > member of our church or a church officer was lying to non-believers in
> the
> > community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his
> > reputation, yes, he’d be disciplined.”
> >
> > - Doug Wilson (January 31, 2007)
> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/protest/Doug_Wilson_Liers_013107.mp3
> >
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