[Vision2020] Freedom of expression

[Joe Campbell]

This is a great point, Tom. And it is THE point. Where does the
rhetoric go from here? How do folks engage in discussion with NSA? It
would seem that offensive hate speech would be the only resort. And
then what? Actual violence? That is the problem with using this kind
of hateful, offensive speech. There is no attempt to dialogue with
anyone about anything. There is just an attempt to stir things up, or
to attract folks with a hatred and misunderstanding of secularism to
our town.

My criticism of Christ Church and NSA has always been POLITICAL, not
religious. I disagree with many of their religious beliefs but I don't
much care what religious beliefs folks have. Not at all.

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> Mr. Rumelhart -
>
> Comments like "violent rhetoric" and "this offends me" are terms used in
> evaluating the appropriateness of the commentary posted on the NSA
> website.
>
> Those terms DO NOT convey restrictions to NSA's right to free speech..
>
> Remember a few years ago when some slime chalked the word "Nazi" on the
> sidewalk outside the entrance to NSA?  Remember the fervor that caused
> here on the Viz?  The displeasure expressed here on the Viz was loud and
> shrill (and, in some cases, threatening).
>
> The cumquat that perpetrated that malice, outside of possibly violating a
> city ordinance against graffiti on public property, violated no law.
>
> As much as both of us may disagree with what (and how it) is expressed
> from either side of the "aisle", . . .
>
> It really is just that simple.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
>
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> On Sun, December 12, 2010 1:46 pm, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>>
>> And I'm not just talking about Freedom of Speech as codified in the Bill
>> of Rights.  That's only there to keep our government from trampling on
>> freedom of expression, which is a right we all have regardless of the
>> Bill of Rights.
>>
>> If this discussion had nothing to do with freedom of expression, then
>> the topics would change from "violent rhetoric" and "this offends me" to
>> "secularism doesn't have to be the enemy of Christian thought" and
>> "exactly what is secularism and why does it frighten them so".
>>
>> You see what I'm sayin'?
>>
>> Paul
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