[Vision2020] Not all conservaives are anti-mosque

[Andreas Schou]

Roger --

The State Department has been funding Rauf's trips to Saudi since, I
think, 2003 -- essentially in his capacity as a peace ambassador. He
has a relatively conservative view of Islam and a relatively positive
view of America, which gives him both credibility with those who might
be sympathetic to terrorism and a reason for the US to fund him.

As for his "support" of Palestinian terrorists: he once refused to
condemn Hamas on a radio call-in show. As someone whom we pay to talk
to those supportive of Hamas in an unofficial capacity, I'm reasonably
glad he didn't. His efficacy for American purposes depends on his
ability to operate without impediment in the broader community of
Muslims -- even unsavory ones. Making a statement about Hamas in
public would undermine that efficacy without having any meaningful
effect on what Hamas is doing.

-- ACS

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:51 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> I am in basic agreement with Parker, however I do not thank that Rauf is all that moderate. He has supported palestinian terrorists and thinks that the US should be more Sharia compliant. Sharia law downgrades women. Any religion should be free to practice their beliefs as long ad they do not interfere with individual rights. Individual rights trumps religious practice  in the US. Also the State department is funding his trip abroad to raise funds. Under separation of church and state the government should not be funding a trip for any religious purpose.
> Roger
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> From: "Art Deco" deco at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:14:44 -0700
> To: "Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Not all conservaives are anti-mosque
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>> The Ground Zero mosque must be built
>>
>> By Kathleen Parker
>> Wednesday, August 18, 2010; A15 Washington Post
>>
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>> It is hard to imagine that anything has gone unsaid about the so-called Ground Zero mosque, but an important point seems to be missing.
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>> The mosque should be built precisely because we don't like the idea very much. We don't need constitutional protections to be agreeable, after all.
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>> This point surpasses even all the obvious reasons for allowing the mosque, principally that there's no law against it. Precluding any such law, we let people worship when and where they please. That it hurts some people's feelings is, well, irrelevant in a nation of laws. And, really, don't we want to keep it that way?
>>
>> Confession: I would prefer that the mosque not be built so close to the ground where nearly 3,000 innocent souls perished. That's my personal feeling, especially as I imagine the suffering of so many families whose loved ones died in the conflagration.
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>> But why do so many Americans feel this way? The answer is inherent in the question. Feeling is emotion, which isn't necessarily bad, but it bears watching.
>>
>> Reason tells us something else: The Muslims who want to build this mosque didn't fly airplanes into skyscrapers. They don't support terrorism. By what understanding do we assign guilt to all for the actions of a relative few?
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>> Even so, as others have noted, civilized people and nations are careful to avoid trespassing on the sorrow, suffering and sacrifice we associate with hallowed grounds. As Charles Krauthammer pointed out, Pope John Paul II ordered Carmelite nuns to abandon a convent they had established at Auschwitz, among other examples.
>>
>> We would like to think that others would be as respectful of our own horrors. And yet, we should beware what we demand lest others demand the same of us. Count the number of times we've heard "sensitivity" invoked the past several days. Muslims should be more sensitive to the families of those who perished, we've heard repeatedly. Even the Anti-Defamation League, defender of religious freedom, urged the mosque's leaders to situate the building farther from Ground Zero -- out of sensitivity.
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>> Many couldn't agree more, and yet it goes without saying -- even if President Obama felt it necessary to state -- that American Muslims have the same right as any other citizens to practice their religion and to build on private property.
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>> Some might wish that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who is behind the proposal, were more sensitive, though opinions are mixed. Others have argued that a moderate Muslim such as Rauf is just the sort of person we hope will help influence a more-moderate Islam. Might an Islamic center near the spot where the religion's worst adherents slaughtered thousands, fellow Muslims among them, be useful to that end?
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>> These are all reasonable arguments. But the more compelling point is that mosque opponents may lose by winning. Radical Muslims have set cities afire because their feelings were hurt. When a Muslim murdered filmmaker Theo van Gogh in Amsterdam, it was because his feelings were hurt. Ditto the Muslims who rioted about cartoons depicting the image of Muhammad and sent frightened doodlers into hiding.
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>> The idea that one should never have one's feelings hurt -- and the violent means to which some will resort in the protection of their own self-regard -- has done harm rivaling evil. It isn't a stretch to say that the greatest threat to free speech is, in fact, "sensitivity."
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>> This is why plans for the mosque near Ground Zero should be allowed to proceed, if that's what these Muslims want. We teach tolerance by being tolerant. We can't insist that our freedom of speech allows us to draw cartoons or produce plays that Muslims find offensive and then demand that they be more sensitive to our feelings.
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>> More to the point, the tolerance we urge the Muslim world to embrace as we exercise our right to free expression, and revel in the glory and the gift of irreverence, is the same we must embrace when Muslims seek to express themselves peacefully.
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>> Nobody ever said freedom would be easy. We are challenged every day to reconcile what is allowable and what is acceptable. Compromise, though sometimes maddening, is part of the bargain. We let the Ku Klux Klan march, not because we agree with them but because they have a right to display their hideous ignorance.
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>> Ultimately, when sensitivity becomes a cudgel against lawful expressions of speech or religious belief -- or disbelief -- we all lose.
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