[Vision2020] NYTimes: The Uneducated American

Mon Oct 12 16:32:17 PDT 2009

Average salary for a K -12 teacher in the US is around 51K.  Average salary
for a university football coach is around 250K.  And I think I'm being
conservative.

Of course what could possibly be more important than football . . .

GS

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> What I want to know is, how can we spend so much on education but teachers
> get so little in compensation for the work that they do?
>
> I would think a teacher would be paid at least $36,000 a year, to start,
> and make up to $60,000 as a base pay for teachers. It doesn't seem to work
> that way.
>
> I wish we could pass an Idaho State Initiative that would take a percentage
> of the property tax and give it to teachers compensation.
>
> I don't think Principals or Superintendents should be paid any more than
> the highest 10% of teachers. Not that they don't work hard, but that
> teachers have the hardest and most important jobs one can have.
>
> It makes most sense to me, that we the people, be able to give taxes to
> teachers directly, rather than it being spend on something less important..
>
> I feel a good teacher, and an engaged student body, can provide better
> education than all the fancy buildings and facilities can provide.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On *Mon, 10/12/09, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Uneducated American
> To: vpschwaller at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:48 PM
>
>
>  Well, I'm thrilled.  The public school system always needs more supporters
> -- bright, caring, insightful men such as yourself.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:41:26 -0700
> > From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Uneducated American
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint the both of you - I have nothing to do in any way,
> > shape, or form with any Moscow anti-public education individual,
> > famous or infamous, Christian or catholic, Libertarian or Republican.
> >
> > I'd almost apologize to whomever this individual is, but I suspect he
> > finds it funny as hell.
> >
> > GS
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> wrote:
> > > I can't speak for Andreas, obviously, but I think his question stemmed
> from
> > > a belief that you might not really be a guy named "Glenn Schwaller,"
> and
> > > that you might, instead, be one of Moscow's famous anti-public
> education
> > > Christian Libertarians.
> > >
> > > I can speak for myself, however, in declaring that Andreas, if I've
> > > represented him correctly, might just be on to something.
> > >
> > > Keely
> > > www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:53:44 -0700
> > >> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Uneducated American
> > >>
> > >> Andreas --
> > >>
> > >> Quit asking silly questions. Of course I do. I have said nothing to
> > >> indicate that I don't believe in public education. I aIso believe in
> > >> home education - admittedly, perhaps a bit more so. I also believe in
> > >> attempting to find out why it (public education) is suffering before
> > >> resorting to only throwing money at it.
> > >>
> > >> If I seem to be obfuscating it's because I AM bewildered. In fact I
> > >> think the entire education system in a state of obfuscation since it
> > >> is difficult to understand why, in spite of all that has been tried,
> > >> it is still failing. Perhaps part of my obfuscation is that I have not
> > >> seen anything else in this thread attempting to address the original
> > >> issue, with the possible exceptions of HDP Joe (throw money throw
> > >> money throw money) and Nick Gier who suggests massive unionization
> > >> (which I think means throw money as well . . .) Admittedly the
> > >> original tenant of subject was "The Uneducated American - Education in
> > >> America, suffering for years, is about to get much worse
> > >> thanks to cuts caused by the financial crisis."
> > >>
> > >> So I guess the answers have been given. Throw money at it. Maybe BHO
> > >> can toss a cool mil into the pot.
> > >>
> > >> Wasted again in obfuscationland
> > >>
> > >> GS
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > Glenn --
> > >> >
> > >> > Quit obfuscating. Do you believe in the public provision of
> education at
> > >> > all?
> > >> >
> > >> > -- ACS
> > >> >
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