[Vision2020] Just Curious
Joe Campbell
philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Nov 5 19:26:44 PST 2009
All philosphers? Or all people with philosophical beliefs? If I
believe in God, am I wasting my time? Or does the time wasting start
when I start talking about my beliefs?
After holidays is fine! Joe
On Nov 5, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I think the conversation is childish. I think all philosophers waste
> their time. :P. But it sure is fun doing it, isn't it?
>
> Logic is great! But it doesn't apply to humans because they aren't
> logical in the least, are they? :)
>
> Lunch with you sounds fantastic. Unless of course it comes out of
> the sea. I think, which perhaps the exception of tuna and salt,
> anything in the sea ought the stay there. You will have to wait
> until after the holidays though because I am working a lot of hours
> until then.
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, "<vision2020 at moscow.com>"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:30 PM
>
> Are you saying, Donovan, that I'm wasting my time with childish
> conversation?
>
> Let's have lunch, and talk about that. I'll buy.
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Childish conversation, please take off site. THX.
>>
>> Donovan Arnold
>>
>> --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>> To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>> Cc: "<vision2020 at moscow.com>" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:33 PM
>>
>> I think we might have all gone on too long about this BUT part of
>> the issue is did Wayne or anyone SAY anything about Weber on the V.
>> Wayne says 'No' and I don't recall anything being said by anyone.
>> So I believe him.
>>
>> I'll only add that I like each of Wayne, and Matt, and Keely, even
>> though I've said some inappropriate things to each in the heat of
>> the moment. Sorry about that to each of you! No doubt I'd like
>> Weber, too, if I ever met him, and I don't give a damn what he does
>> for a living or drinks for a beverage!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:07 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For heaven's sake, Wayne, you just wrote to me that he did have a
>>> drinking problem. I think that's probably clear enough. And, for
>>> the zillionth time, I think it's inappropriate -- hurtful, unkind
>>> -- to bring it up.
>>>
>>> ?????
>>>
>>> Keely
>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: deco at moscow..com
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:49:02 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>
>>> JFOR, Matt stop lying!
>>>
>>> I have never made such an assertion.
>>>
>>> Show V2020 anything that I asserted that even resembled "he's is
>>> in and has been in an alcohol recovery program". You are free to
>>> post all private correspondence between us on this subject.
>>>
>>>
>>> W.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Matt Decker
>>> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com ; philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>
>>> I believe his words something to the effect of "he's is in and has
>>> been in an alcohol recovery program". He never said alki but thats
>>> the way most will take it. For that I apologize to Wayne.
>>>
>>> MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:31:45 -0800
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>
>>> I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki," but
>>> if that happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne
>>> apologizes . . .
>>>
>>> Keely
>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>
>>> One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a
>>> bartender, I did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe
>>> you have a better opinion of me if you stopped distorting what I
>>> say and stopped conveniently forgetting the posts I write that you
>>> agree with.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you
>>> have complained about"?
>>>
>>> To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes both ways,
>>> I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a wide
>>> variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute
>>> think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both ways.
>>>
>>> Ex.
>>>
>>> Art deco claiming Weber is an alki and mentioning how he works at
>>> the club. How does he know? Is Art a drinking buddy? What is the
>>> purpose of stating he works at a bar. Answer: To BELITTLE
>>>
>>> Another one
>>>
>>> A lady wrote an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks
>>> ago mentioning how she won't vote for Weber or Brown because of
>>> "these" obnoxious signs around town. How all the money raised by
>>> the GMA is being wasted on signs. Low and behold the facts come
>>> out showing that Chaney has made more money along with Reese
>>> raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs
>>> all throughout Moscow.
>>>
>>> Lastly for the night
>>>
>>> You
>>>
>>> "This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote
>>> the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their
>>> candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their
>>> state
>>> senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last minute
>>> stunts, like this weekend's letter".
>>>
>>> Along with referring to our city council as "joke radicals". Care
>>> to explain?
>>>
>>> Your last page excuse, mentioning how you never said they are
>>> radicals, looks weird to me from the above statements.
>>>
>>> Joe can you imagine if I said the radical left movement on this
>>> site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just like I don't expect
>>> that from you.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>> MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>
>>> Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I
>>> have complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.
>>>
>>> Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is
>>> not? And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first
>>> time. It is a regular occurence. What IS radical if having
>>> connections with a group on the Southern Poverty Law Center watch
>>> list is not?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they
>>> don't.
>>>
>>> Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary as a
>>> radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.
>>>
>>> Gotta work
>>>
>>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>
>>> Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not
>>> radical enough, what is?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok. So is he radical?
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38 -0800
>>> CC: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on
>>> Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to
>>> his website when I checked it this morning.
>>>
>>> He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while
>>> hiding his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is
>>> that we'd figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the
>>> other reason.
>>>
>>> I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give
>>> me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort
>>> of crap, I tell him to hit the road.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is in the
>>> same as Limbaugh and Hannity?
>>>
>>> > From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> > To: thansen at moscow.com
>>> > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800
>>> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>> >
>>> > This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They
>>> promote
>>> > the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their
>>> > candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their
>>> state
>>> > senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last
>>> minute
>>> > stunts, like this weekend's letter.
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Bottom line, Wayne . . .
>>> > >
>>> > > If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is that mayor
>>> > > going to
>>> > > represent those people?
>>> > >
>>> > > Mayor Chaney responds to public email inquiries regularly.
>>> > >
>>> > > Here it is the night before election day and the people of
>>> Moscow
>>> > > don't
>>> > > even know if John Weber even checks his email.
>>> > >
>>> > > Why does John Weber respond to the people of Moscow, DURING HIS
>>> > > ELECTION
>>> > > CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?
>>> > >
>>> > > If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling be Mayor
>>> Weber's
>>> > > communication link with the people of Moscow?
>>> > >
>>> > > Seeya at the polls, Moscow.
>>> > >
>>> > > Tom Hansen
>>> > > Moscow, Idaho
>>> > >
>>> > > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects
>>> it to
>>> > > change
>>> > > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>> > >
>>> > > - Unknown
>>> > >
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