[Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest Warrants for
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 30 12:18:04 PDT 2009
Mr. Hansen,
The US did break international law during WWI and WWII.
Japanese Interment Camps and the dropping of two nuclear bombs on civilian populations.
In WWI it assisted the Allies with Chemical Weapons, and shipped military equipment on civilian ships.
The Bay of Pigs Invasion, which started the Cuban Missile Crisis, was also in violation of International Law.
Best Regards,
Donovan
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest Warrants for
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:11 PM
Arnold inquired:
"Can you cite where the US did not break international law when its self
preservation was at risk?"
Should I start with Word War 1 or World War 2?
Or maybe the famous "Missiles of October [1962]" where the Soviet Union
installed missiles (armed with nuclear warheads) on Cuba.
There are many, many moe, Arnold. I'll just leave you to oionder those
(for now).
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
Former participant in the Southeast Asia Wargames (Class of '70)
> Sunil,
>
> The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land, is it not? Thus it
superse> des international law.
>
> Can you cite where they US did not break international law when its self
> preservation was at risk?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest Warrants for
> To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:07 AM
>
>
>
>
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> Donovan,
>
> Can you cite a legal defense for your proposition, " I didn't suggest
that.> I said the US can break international law if it needs to in order
to
prote> ct its own interests."
>
> Or is it simply 'Might makes right,' as Dave suggests?
>
> Sunil
>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:54:09 -0700
> > From: tiedye at turbonet.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest Warrants for
> >
> > Of course we CAN, we are the big bad ass empire, we can get away with
> > anything (and often do), the question is SHOULD we. And what can we do
> > to establish an actual rule of law?
> >
> > Donovan, what good is a "law" if no one follows it? If I felt it were
nec> essary to bulldoze your house to "protect" my interests, what would
stop
me> ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > > "Are you suggesting that we are justified in torturing prisoners,
burni> ng
> > > down villages, and attacking non-combatants simply because these
inhuma> ne
> > > actions serve our purposes?"-Tom Hansen
> > >
> > > I didn't suggest that. I said the US can break international law if
it
> > > needs to in order to protect its own interests.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Donovan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Mon, 3/30/09, Tom Hansen /<thansen at moscow.com>/* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest
> > > Warrants for
> > > To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam"
> > > <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:04 AM
> > >
> > > Arnold stated:
> > >
> > > "Not true, the US can violate international law in order to
> > > protect its
> > > own interests."
> > >
> > > This comment extends WAY BEYOND the pale.
> > >
> > > International law such as those prescribed by the Geneva Accords
> > > of 1949?
> > >
> > > Are you suggesting that we are justified in torturing prisoners,
> > > burning
> > > down villages, and attacking non-combatants simply because these
> > > inhumane
> > > actions serve our purposes?
> > >
> > > The ends does NOT justify the means!!!
> > >
> > > If so, I suggest we change our nattional motto "E Plurubus Unum"
> > > to "Do as
> > > I say, not as I do."
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > > Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th,
> > > featuring
> > > Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go to . . .
> > >
> > > http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding
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> > >
> > > Seeya
> > > there.
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