[Vision2020] Walmart Gets Nod for Starting Work

[lfalen]

Sustainable seems to be the latest buss word. I am all for sustainable agriculture. It works fine in more rural areas. Most of the people here can live on a sustainable bases and it would be good if more people did. However it does not work for large cities, which is where most of the people are. Some one has to produce food to feed them hence commercial agriculture and all of the tools ( Fertilizer,GMF, etc) needed to produce it.
Roger
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From: Garrett Clevenger garrettmc at verizon.net
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:02:06 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com,  lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Walmart Gets Nod for Starting Work

> 
> Thanks for your comments, Roger.
> 
> I want to clarify that I am not advocating no growth. I agree that growth is going to happen, change will occur. It's growth at any cost I see as the problem.
> 
> You're right, world human population has exploded. There are too many people using too many resources, and counting. Seeing development that happens in more populated areas gives me reason to think we really need to make sure we are growing in a way that is more sustainable, otherwise, things will get out of control. Precedence has already been set, and things will grow on their own accord if limits aren't placed on them. That could have bad consequences on us in the long run.
> 
> We have a finite planet, but we should be smart enough to not be overwhelmed at a future date, when we can be planning ahead instead.
> 
> I don't make a lot of money. I'm a farmer, after-all. We are frugal with how we spend our money, but the funny thing is, I feel incredibly rich. I guess for me it's not how much cash I have in the bank, or how much cheap stuff I can get my hands on, but the quality of life the Palouse affords. It really is something all the money can't buy. I'm not willing to let that be squandered by people who don't have Moscow's best interest at heart, in particular, Hawkins.
> 
> I think it behooves us all to think about this, as it's coming, and as responsible residents of the area, it seems like its our duty to make sure we don't grow beyond our means and adversely affect the businesses and residents already here who have a lot at stake.
> 
> gclev
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
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> > From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Walmart Gets Nod for Starting Work
> > To: garrettmc at verizon.net, vision2020 at moscow.com, donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:17 AM
> > Garrett
> > I can sympathize with the sentiment of keeping things on a
> > more rural level. I was raised in an area where some of our
> > neighbours were 100 miles away. I would not wont to live in
> > an area like Portland or L. A. either. I worked in L. A. for
> > a while and thought it would have been a nice place 200
> > years ago. However on a practical level, growth is the
> > nature of things. The word population has exploded. It is
> > not feasible to go to a no growth mode, unless you want to
> > somehow eliminate over half the world population. In which
> > case how do you select those who have to go? Doing away with
> > all medicine might be one way.
> > On stores like Walmart,it is a matter of economics. Not all
> > of us can afford the more expensive stores.In times like
> > these a lot of us have to pinch pennies. When I was in
> > graduate school and my wife was an undergraduate, we lives
> > vary cheap. We bought potatoes, carrots and cabbage in 100
> > lb sacks from a truck garden in Boise. We brought 50 pound
> > of dried beans and the only thing we bought from the grocery
> > store was dried milk. I hope we don't have to go back to
> > that but in time like these we need to scale back. A lot of
> > people are doing that, which is why Walmart and McDonnalds
> > are showing increased sales while othes are in decline.
> > Roger