[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

[Joe Campbell]

Clear harms against clear persons is what the law should be interested  
in and nothing more.

Joe Campbell

On Jun 5, 2009, at 6:12 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> A very interesting view point! Lets apply it to a few areas of the  
> church of the "progressive"  democrat party.
>
> Instead of taking more and more money from the hard working tax  
> payer to redistribute to the layabouts why not let the citizens  
> choose for themselves when and where to send their charitable  
> contributions?
>
> Rather then making certain words and thoughts a crime, why not let  
> citizens think and speak as they will and reserve the might of the  
> state for actual actions that negatively impact others?
>
> Why not let businesses and property owners do what they think is  
> fitting and proper with what is theirs (with reasonable and minimal  
> constraint) and let citizens decide for themselves if they would  
> like to work for or patronize the end result.
>
> When it comes to choices such as these, your world view has proven  
> to be a smidge on the narrow side as well.
>
> g
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> >
> To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth  
> Catholic?
>
>
>> Roger,
>>
>> You can be pro-life and also pro-choice. The issue is whether or not
>> you are truely in favor of freedom of religion and thought and
>> practice and are willing to accept that some folks don't share your
>> narrow world view. Why not let them decide for themselves.
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2009, at 10:44 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns
>>> out that she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception
>>> of Keely will be less enthused with her appointment. It would be
>>> ironic if she turned out to be the reverse of Souter on the abortion
>>> issue.
>>> Roger
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
>>> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
>>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>>>
>>>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in
>>>> a choice
>>>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background
>>>> is not a
>>>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
>>>>
>>>> And why is this issue not on the front page?  If she were Muslim,
>>>> Hindu or
>>>> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body
>>>> politic towards
>>>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics  
>>>> would be
>>>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that
>>>> Christianity is
>>>> being marginalized in government.  Religion is a dominant influence
>>>> on
>>>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
>>>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
>>>>
>>>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
>>>> -------------------
>>>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of
>>>> another
>>>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or
>>>> another?
>>>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified."  Now there's a
>>>> faith for
>>>> you!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
>>>>
>>>>> From website above:
>>>>
>>>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
>>>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the  
>>>> U.S.
>>>> population according to the 2001 Census.
>>>> -------------------
>>>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a  
>>>> political
>>>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme
>>>> Court
>>>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics,
>>>> in the US
>>>> Senate or the presidency.  More than gender, race or ethnicity.
>>>>
>>>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would
>>>> stand a
>>>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Moffett
>>>>
>>>>
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