[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue Jul 28 10:05:09 PDT 2009 

It is every bit as bad. Why does it have to be a group? To insult a family is just as bad. Why do you think it is less offensive to insult an individual or a family?
Not to Sunil on the basketball team- You misunderstood me, probably due to my poor phrasing. I did not mean to imply that the team was leftist. There political views are unknown. at least to me.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:21:44 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking

> Who is being inconsistent? There was public outcry in both cases,  
> which is why both were forced to appologize. But you can't be serious  
> that Letterman's bad joke was as bad as Imus's. What GROUP of people  
> did Letterman offend? Unwed mothers? Alaskans? Baseball fans?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:08 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> 
> > The inconsistency here is that Letterman's apo;gy was late in coming  
> > and did not sound sincere. He did not get any any trouble for it.  
> > Contrast that with Immus. He apologizes profussly and went to see  
> > the the girls in question in person. He was fired. It seems that one  
> > can  get away with jokes about those on the right, but you are in  
> > deep trouble if the joke is about a minority, particularly if they  
> > are on the left. These sort of things should be off limits no matter  
> > who the recipient is( kids in particular)
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:08:03 -0700
> > To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a  
> > Palin'onDowntown Parking
> >
> >> Bullshit. Letterman clarified who the joke was about.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 11, 2009, at 12:45 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> 14 year old Willow was the daughter that was in the same ball park
> >>> as the ball player in question. To claim the joke was about Bristol
> >>> is low order sophistry. And since the post you're responding to was
> >>> directed to the hamster, I didn't really expect you to be running
> >>> any errands on my behalf either.
> >>>
> >>> g
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Sunil Ramalingam
> >>> Cc: vision 2020
> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:49 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a
> >>> Palin'onDowntown Parking
> >>>
> >>> And since Letterman was making a joke about Palin's eldest daughter,
> >>> I won't be running that other errand for you either.  Look for it
> >>> yourself if you're that interested in it.
> >>>
> >>> Sunil
> >>>
> >>>> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> >>>> To: thansen at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> >>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
> >>> onDowntown Parking
> >>>> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:08:18 -0700
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, why don't you document the example you just provided.
> >>> Hows about
> >>>> you provide a link to the video or the audio of McCain actually
> >>> making that
> >>>> particular jape? I'm afraid a mention on a left wing web site
> >>> isn't quite
> >>>> the definitive documentation needed to convince me. Being the
> >>> lists u-tube
> >>>> guru, this ought to be a fairly simple matter for you to arrange.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe while you're at it find something equivalent to the amusing
> >>> anecdotes
> >>>> involving the 14 year old daughters of conservative western state
> >>> governors
> >>>> having casual sex in public with baseball players widely noted for
> >>> their
> >>>> inability to keep it in their trousers. That would be a real hoot.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll be waiting for that link...
> >>>>
> >>>> g
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>>> To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> >>>> Cc: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:10 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
> >>> onDowntown
> >>>> Parking
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> For instance . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet
> >>> Reno." "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/09/john-mccains-crude-chelsea-clinton-joke/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let me know if you are interested in more McCain-isms, g. And be
> >>> specific
> >>>>> if you prefer McCain during the early years (1988 - 2000) or
> >>> something
> >>>>> more contemporary, ok?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom Hansen
> >>>>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Really? You've never heard of it before?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> S
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
> >>>>>> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
> >>>>>> onDowntown Parking
> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:49:27 -0700
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Document?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> g
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From:
> >>>>>> Sunil Ramalingam
> >>>>>> Cc: vision 2020
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:27
> >>>>>> AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City
> >>>>>> Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown Parking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gary,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I guess you could ask John McCain about where the
> >>>>>> limits are; based on his behavior, he seemed to believe in 1998
> >>> that it
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>> open season on Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, and Chelsea
> >>> Clinton, when
> >>>>>> the last
> >>>>>> was 18. At least she was no longer legally a
> >>>>>> child.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sunil
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>> jampot at roadrunner.com
> >>>>>>> Date:
> >>>>>> Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:47:26 -0700
> >>>>>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
> >>> on
> >>>>>> Downtown
> >>>>>> Parking
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No appology required (after all, I'm not the one
> >>>>>> being crudely refered to)
> >>>>>>> but, does this mean that any vulgar or
> >>>>>> sexual remark is fair game when
> >>>>>>> discussing public figures? I don't
> >>>>>> think I am personally willing to go down
> >>>>>>> that path but it would be
> >>>>>> nice to know what the current ground rules are. Is
> >>>>>>> it now going to be
> >>>>>> cool to make ribald, boardering on obscene suggestions
> >>>>>>> about Michele
> >>>>>> Obama? Can we now go crazy when remarking on Hillary's looks
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>> sexuality? Can we drop it on down to the local level and smear
> >>> Mayor
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chaney with remarks simalar to those made by late night TV hacks?
> >>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> fill me in with regard to where the boundries are going to be
> >>> set or
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> there will be any at all. It pains me to be behind the curve.
> >>>>>> Speaking of
> >>>>>>> which:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Emailing:
> >>>>>> 6a00d8341c4df253ef011570f27fe3970c-800wi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> g
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: <bear at moscow.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>>>>>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020"
> >>>>>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:50
> >>>>>> PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a
> >>> Palin' on
> >>>>>> Downtown
> >>>>>>> Parking
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> GARY:
> >>>>>> I'll apologize up front, this IS a cheep shot but I just can't
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> resist!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Would this be considered
> >>>>>> "Governorus Interruptus" by the only Palin with
> >>>>>>>> the sense to pull
> >>>>>> out early? *S*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> ---
> >>> --- 
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Urban Dictionary has adopted a new phrase for its
> >>> dictionary
> >>>>>> (with
> >>>>>>>>> four definitions):
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Puling a Palin"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Courtesy of the Urban
> >>>>>> Dictionary at:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pulling+a+palin
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. Pulling a Palin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The Republican
> >>>>>> art of disguising your inept knowledge by answering a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> question with another question as in "with what respect Charlie?"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Charlie asks "do you agree with the Bush
> >>>>>> Doctrine?"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sarah responds "in what respect
> >>>>>> Charlie?" "do you mean his world view"
> >>>>>>>>> staring with blank
> >>>>>> ignorance at Charlie.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sarah was just caught
> >>>>>> Pulling a Palin!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. Pulling a Palin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Telling a large and obvious lie for personal gain.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Even though I have a herpes sore on my lip, I'm pulling a
> >>> Palin
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> telling her I'm a virgin.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 3. Pulling a
> >>>>>> Palin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Rambling non-stop unrelated
> >>>>>> information to try to hide the fact that you
> >>>>>>>>> have no clue
> >>>>>> about what someone just asked you.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> COURIC:
> >>>>>> Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> helping
> >>>>>>>>> middle-class families struggling with health care,
> >>>>>> housing, gas and
> >>>>>>>>> groceries? Allow them to spend more and put
> >>>>>> more money into the economy?
> >>>>>>>>> Instead of helping these big
> >>>>>> financial institutions that played a role in
> >>>>>>>>> creating this
> >>>>>> mess?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PALIN: That's why I say, I    like...
> >>>>>> ever American I'm speaking with were
> >>>>>>>>> ill about this position
> >>>>>> that we have been put in where it is the tax
> >>>>>>>>> payers looking
> >>>>>> to bailout.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But ultimately, what the bailout
> >>>>>> does... is... help... those... who are
> >>>>>>>>> concerned about the
> >>>>>> health care reform that is needed to help shore up
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> economy ... Helping the ... Oh, it's got to be about job
> >>>>>> creation too.
> >>>>>>>>> Shoring up our economy and putting it back on
> >>>>>> the right track. So health
> >>>>>>>>> care reform... and reducing
> >>>>>> taxes... and reining in spending has got to
> >>>>>>>>> accompany tax
> >>>>>> reductions... and tax relief for Americas... And trade...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> we've got to see trade... mmm... as opportunity... mmm... not
> >>> as a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in
> >>> the trade
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> sector
> >>>>>>>>> today. We've got to look at that as
> >>>>>> more opportunity... All those things
> >>>>>>>>> under the umbrella of
> >>>>>> job creation. This bailout is a part of that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> COURIC: Are you pulling a Palin?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> PALIN: Yes.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 4. Pulling a Palin 10 up, 2 down
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Pulling a Palin is the act of being chosen for the
> >>>>>> Republican party Vice
> >>>>>>>>> President while knowing that your 17
> >>>>>> year old daughter is pregnant. This
> >>>>>>>>> adds a lot of controversy
> >>>>>> to the election as the family values and
> >>>>>>>>> truthiness of Palin
> >>>>>> are scrutinized.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nick is Pulling a Palin by
> >>>>>> entering that marathon with his    heart
> >>>>>>>>> condition.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In light of . . .
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.moscowcares.com/070609_06_DowntownParking.htm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We must now ask ourselves seriously, Visionaires . .
> >>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Is our City Council pulling a
> >>>>>> Palin?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tom Hansen
> >>>>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the
> >>>>>> Optimist expects it to
> >>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>> Realist adjusts his sails."
> >>>>>>>>>
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