[Vision2020] "Please do not continue to confuse people with facts."
Joe Campbell
philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 04:03:10 PDT 2009
Very interesting stuff, Ted. Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
> While I think government regulation of addictive drug use in the
> workplace (tobacco in bars, in this case) that has dramatic negative
> health impacts, when employees sometimes breathe the drugs
> continuously during their shift, is reasonable, I have doubts about
> restricting outdoor tobacco use. For one thing, this is not
> occurring in the workplace (unless the bar happens to be outdoors),
> and outdoor use of tobacco does not concentrate the smoke as use
> indoors.
>
> But the twenty foot ban on smoking outside entrances to bars in
> Moscow does not make it hard to find a spot to smoke outside some
> bars. Consider John's Alley. Along the sidewalk in front of the
> Alley to the east is the south wall of the Moscow Food CO-OP. There
> are no entrances along this wall. Twenty feet to the east from the
> south entrance to John's Alley is within a quick few steps of a
> "legal smoke zone."
>
> Anyway, drugs, sex, politics, economics and religion are main
> subjects (what else?) that it seems are difficult sometimes to
> approach rationally and factually...
>
> What drugs are determined to be "hard" or "soft" is often not based
> on objective medical knowledge, and the legal status of illegal/
> legal drugs is sometimes not based on the rational application of
> medical science and sociology. Isn't cannabis criminalization an
> example?
>
> Alcohol in quantities easy to consume induces dramatic impairment of
> mind and body (and can kill, as the sad case of the U of I student
> who overdosed on alcohol last spring reveals: http://www.kxly.com/Global/story.asp?S=10258470
> ), that use of methamphetamine or cocaine, for contrast, will not,
> though long term abuse of these drugs will impair function and
> injection makes overdosing a risk. Who injects alcohol? Is this
> possible? However, alcohol is the number one drug associated with
> violent crime.
>
> One of the signs of cocaine or methamphetamine use/abuse is
> increased efficiency on the job, which is not associated with
> alcohol use. And the rates of vehicle accidents from cocaine or
> methamphetamine use is not very high, unlike alcohol, which being a
> depressant reduces reaction time and coordination. Soldiers use
> methamphetamine for critical times in battle, to increase their
> performance or stay awake. Alcohol can also be physically
> addictive, and damaging to health (liver). It could therefore be
> classified as a "hard" drug, as cocaine and methamphetamine
> sometimes are.
>
> Though tobacco use usually does not induce the radical impairments
> of mental and physical function that alcohol does immediately after
> a few drinks, it (nicotine) can induce profound physical addiction;
> and the long term health damage is severe, which is why, combined
> with tobacco's widespread availability and use, tobacco is the
> leading cause of premature death. Nicotine can also easily kill due
> to an overdose, if injected into the blood stream, but tobacco
> smoking makes this outcome nearly impossible, from what I have read.
>
> Tobacco is insidious because a user can become addicted for years,
> with minimal impairment of function (unless having high standards
> for performance, as an athlete would) before the most serious health
> impacts manifest (cancer and respiratory diseases, etc.). People
> often seem to tolerate "smokers cough," and the smell. Alcohol's
> impairment of functioning soon after a significant dose is a
> discouragement to abuse, as some U of I freshmen every year,
> apparently lacking in experience, discover after a night at the
> bars, leaving their dinner on the sidewalk, a rite of passage for
> youth, some might claim...
>
> If physical addiction and either radical impairment of functioning
> or very serious negative health impacts on large numbers of people
> defines a "hard" drug, tobacco would be the number one candidate,
> among drugs commonly used, with alcohol second.
>
> Heroin is highly addictive, but does not cause the extent of health
> problems tobacco does, or at least not directly from only the
> effects of the drug; and I don't mean because heroin is used much
> less than tobacco. This statement will raise eyebrows, but this is
> because people have not studied the objective medical science, and
> are conditioned by socially constructed myths about drugs and their
> effects. Of course overdosing on heroin is fatal, but the negative
> health impacts of heroin use are often due to impurities in the
> drug, needles used incorrectly, and the life style of addiction.
> This is one argument for decriminalzing heroin (with regulation, of
> course), given criminalization encourages many of the behaviors that
> are damaging from heroin addiction. Doctors who have had access to
> high quality heroin, who know how to administer it, and avoid
> overdosing, and are financially secure, have been heroin addicts for
> years, reliably carrying on their medical practice with their
> addiction in secret. Below read an animal study comparing cocaine to
> heroin; the effects of cocaine were clearly more damaging than heroin:
>
> http://wings.buffalo.edu/aru/ARUreport06.htm
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>
> It is rather amazing that five Nobel Prize winning US authors were
> alcoholics, with some of them claiming alcohol had a "stimulating"
> effect on their writing skills. Info on this issue is from this
> excellent and fascinating book, a great read:
>
> http://www.slushpile.net/index.php/2005/09/06/bod-the-thirsty-muse/
> Today’s Book-of-the-Day is The Thirsty Muse: Alcohol and the America
> n Writer by Tom Dardis. The book examines the influence of alcohol o
> n so many American authors. And the list is incredibly long. Five of
> the seven (at the time of publication) American Nobel laureates–Sin
> clair Lewis, Eugene O’Neill, William Faulkner, Ernest Hemingway, and
> John Steinbeck–were alcoholic. Similarly afflicted writers include
> Jack London, Edna St. Vincent Millay, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Hart Cran
> e, Thomas Wolfe, Dashiell Hammett, Dorothy Parker, Ring Larnder, Dju
> na Barnes, John O’Hara, Tennessee Williams, Carson McCullers, James
> Jones, John Cheever, Truman Capote, Raymond Carver, Robert Lowell, a
> nd James Agee.
>
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