[Vision2020] Fw: [Spam 5.86] BE OUTSIDE!

[Donovan Arnold]

Joe,
 
I think too, that the Scouts are in general a great learning tool for many young men. I also agree that teaching young men to discriminate by banning youths that may be gay or questioning their sexuality is wrong. I think they need to not be an organization about sex or sexual orientation, and instead be an organization that focuses on nature and community service, as they have always been. 
 
I was a scout for about two years. I didn't like it as much as Indian Guides. I thought Indian Guides was less formal and more creative. The problem was there was not enough kids to form a decent group in local enough area, so I moved in the Boy Scouts. It was fun, but too formal, in my opinion.  
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Thu, 1/29/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: [Spam 5.86] BE OUTSIDE!
To: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 2:34 PM

I don't want get controversial but the anti-gay comments have hurt,  
too. I was a scout. And odidnt mind the uniforms! Both my dad and  
brother were eagle scouts.

Joe Campbell

On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:52, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> I really like what the CiNN network is all about-getting kids into
>> nature.  But, speaking as a former professional Scout coordinator, it
>> seems a bit redundant.  We've had Girl and Boy Scouts for almost
100
>> years doing just this.  The program is in place, the support network
>> has already been built, 100s of thousands of kids are participating
>> with the assistance of numerous volunteers, and many great camps
>> exist.  Why not support and grow what we already have?
>
> When I was a kid, my parents tried to involve me in Scouts many times,
> but I hated it.  I disliked then, and I dislike now, anything
> resembling merit badges.  If something is worth doing, it is worth
> doing for itself, and the ribbons and medals are condescending.
> Further, most of the merit-badge-earning activities I found pointless
> and tedious.
>
> I dislike that the Boy Scouts are not entirely secular, although the
> Girl Scouts gets this right.  I also think that the uniforms should
> go.  I know a couple of Boy Scouts, and they all look embarrassed by
> the uniforms.
>
> Anyway, those are my objections to Scouting.  Your mileage may vary
> (and probably will).

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