[Vision2020] Vandalism Deplored as Hate Crime

[Glenn Schwaller]

As far as I know, my church has no such policy of preaching genocide
against anyone, gays, lesbians, trans-genders or women included.  In
fact the pastor of my church IS a woman.

I would suggest NOT "telling Doug to his face" anything with respect
to my observations of these two hate incidents (or any of my
observations for that matter) since as far as I am concerned (and he
too) he is not involved in how I perceive these incidents (nor any
other perception on my part0>

I guess I need to publicly apologize to Doug for all the "hate
mongering" he receives as the result of my blind, ignorant,
disingenuous comments.  Although I think he probably doesn't give a
rip.  Nevertheless - my apologies Doug.

GS


On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, for the sake of argument, let's put aside the legalities and the
>> fact this was someone’s personal property, and look at the "intent,"
>> "mind-set," or "personal character" displayed in both cases.  Is there
>> a difference, humanistically, philosophically, morally, or socially,
>> between these two incidents?  A simple yes or no will suffice.  I, of
>> course, will vote No.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> I'm having a difficult time deciding whether you're ignorant, blind,
> or disingenuous. I suspect it's more the latter than anything. The
> swastika is not a symbol denoting "you are a Nazi." It's a symbol
> denoting "I am a Nazi, and I want to let you know that I know where
> you are." It's not merely an insult: it's a threat.
>
> "Hitler Youth" is similar only insofar as it refers to Nazis. It
> refers, in particular, to your church's policy of preaching genocide
> against the secular culture that will "become to you Amalekites" when
> you take over. I suspect that, even more particularly, it refers to
> your church preaching the state-sanctioned murder of gays and lesbians
> and the moral superiority of racial slavery. In that regard, then,
> it's not a statement that "we know where you are;" rather, it's a
> statement that "we know _what_ you are, and we find it abominable."
>
> I'm willing to tell you that to your face, Doug. And while I don't
> necessarily approve of it being written on the sidewalk -- an
> uninvolved, undeserving third party likely had to wash it off -- I
> most heartily approve of the sentiment.
>
> -- ACS
>