[Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for attention?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Apr 30 19:49:52 PDT 2009


Yipes your memory is bad. You should get that checked!

Joe Campbell

On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
wrote:

> My recollection is that at that time we were discussing OBL (at that  
> time still BHO) and the upcoming election. Weather guy was  
> providing, among other things, selected items of interest from a  
> variety of sources, many of which you seemed to find uncomfortable  
> but which were very much on topic. I'm not sure what "ad hominems"  
> you might be referring to but if there's anything I've learned over  
> the years on this list it's that you've precious little aversion to  
> sacrificing accuracy for expediency and that you often mistake a  
> view point you disagree with for an attack.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Campbell
> To: g. crabtree
> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
> attention?
>
> Right! I asked the same question when your friend was harrassing the  
> V! Of course, at the time you seemed to think Dr. No's ad hominems  
> were legit!
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:59 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> So why don't you explain for us the argument that matters in the  
>> post in question? That said, I still believe that the sad and  
>> lonely Bertha has the right to do what she does. Eventually she'll  
>> meet someone nice and her obsession with me will wayne.
>>
>> g
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joe Campbell
>> To: g. crabtree
>> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
>> attention?
>>
>> Gary: Do you forget your defence of No Whetherman (hah, hah)? I  
>> think it was, Names don't matter, arguments do!
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My Dearest Bertha,
>>>
>>> I get that you aren't interested in contributing to the discussion.
>>>
>>> I get that you are not swayed by my suave good looks and worldly  
>>> charm.
>>>
>>> I get that my powerful intellect and rapier wit bounce off you  
>>> seemingly unnoticed.
>>>
>>> In fact, I am coming to believe that you imagine you don't really  
>>> care for me at all. (wink, wink)
>>>
>>> All of these things I can understand.
>>>
>>> What I can't understand is why you are frightened of me.
>>>
>>> The waifish Ms. Lund delights in spitting in my eye.
>>>
>>> The diminutive Ms. Mix gleefully reads me the riot act.
>>>
>>> The delicate Ms. Hovey never hesitates to point out my failings as  
>>> she sees them.
>>>
>>> And all of them do it over their very own real life names.
>>>
>>> What could I have done to scare you into hiding?
>>>
>>> Many of my most vocal critics on this forum have actually spoken  
>>> with me face to face and emerged none the worse for wear.
>>>
>>> What could I have done to cause you to cower so?
>>>
>>> What horror could I have inflicted on you that leaves you with no  
>>> recourse but to hurl pitifully weak epithets from the safe harbor  
>>> of anonymity?
>>>
>>> Or could it be that you simply yearn to be noticed?
>>>
>>>
>>> g
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17 AM
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Habeas Corpus at Bagram
>>>
>>> The village locksmith said:
>>>
>>>
>>> "My goodness isn't the nascent little ambulance chaser cute when  
>>> he gets all up on his hind legs and            brays about how  
>>> others should be ashamed?
>>>
>>> The reason that I don't "defend torture" is because that  I see no  
>>> compelling need to. As I've said before, I do not believe that  
>>> waterboarding is torture, I do not believe that the previous  
>>> administration had a policy promoting the use of torture, and  I  
>>> don't think that your pretending to be the arbiter of all that is  
>>> righteous, pure and holy necessitates my responding to every idle  
>>> quack and query that's directed my way.
>>>
>>> Now how's about you knock it off with the phony shame routine and  
>>> save it for closing arguments in kiddy court alright?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Before anyone criticizes the lonely locksmith over this only  
>>> apparently puerile outburst, they need to understand the pressure  
>>> he is under.
>>>
>>> His business is so busy that he is constantly on edge.  In fact,  
>>> it is so busy that he may have to expand into the next door  
>>> laundromat.  As one of the area's leading entrepreneurs and  
>>> entrepreneurial philosophers, he is to be cheered for his daring  
>>> and incisive business acumen in these hard times.
>>>
>>> He is our leader.  Cut him some slack if he seems irrational and  
>>> childish.  He is going where few dare to go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Gray Tree Crab aka "Big Bertha"
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