[Vision2020] Doug Wilson's debate

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 30 09:20:21 PDT 2009


Keely,

There's no question that it was Christopher Hitchens who supported the Iraq war. I don't know what his brother's position was. Here's a link to an article he wrote early in the war:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1015766/posts

As for Wilson, as I recall it he posted on V2020 that he opposed the war because he didn't support an American Empire. I don't recall that he based it on the expenditures for the war.

Sunil

From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; godshatter at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:23:44 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Doug Wilson's debate








Going back to the Left-Right thing:

I don't know where Hitchens stood on the Iraq War; it would surprise me if he did support it.  Any thought we're switching Hitchens, and it was conservative brother Peter who gave his British support to the war?  

Second, Wilson's lack of support for the Iraq war is not in any way a sign of any left-thinking on his part.  Far from it.  He is so virulently conservative and so impassioned about what he takes Libertarianism to be that his support was merely because "real conservatives," unlike Bush, would never support the expenditure of such a war.  Debt is worse than "defense" is better, in his book.  Teabags, anyone?

It's true that all but one or two of Wilson's books are from Canon Press, his printshop here in Moscow.  I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with Paul on this one.  I can't congratulate Wilson for being invited to participate in the debate, book, DVD and tour with Hitchens.  He is, to me, an astonishingly poor choice to represent Christianity, either as an apologist (defender), theologian, or practitioner.  Worse, he's a blowhard whose theology -- I refer to the Federal Vision -- is at direct odds with evangelicalism and, specifically, his Reformed branch thereof.  He didn't fare all that well in his July 2007 debate with me; I can't imagine that anything but his puckishness and bravado worked well for him here.  

There are innumerable Christian theologians and apologists who are worlds beyond Wilson:  Hestenes, Keener, McGrath, Plantinga, Horton, Clark-Kroeger, Belleville, Fee, Yamamoto, Elshtain, Gaebelein-Hull . . . . the list goes on and on.  And no matter how long the list of able Christian theologians, apologists, and pastors continues, it won't include Douglas Wilson.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: godshatter at yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:33:30 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Doug Wilson's debate
> 
> Unfortunately the book is released by Cannon Press, which is located  
> in Moscow. I think this was a huge mistake. Look, if I were to own a  
> press, how many books would I have? A lot more than I have now!
> 
> IMO Hitchins is as far to the left as Wilson is to the right; I have  
> no use for either view. It would be a shame if we came away from their  
> debate with the view that these were our only options.
> 
> The myth is that the left is swayed by radicals like Hitchins but the  
> reality is the right is swayed by radicals like Wilson.
> 
> Joe Campbell
> 
> On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
> 
> > This link was posted in a forum I frequent which discusses religion.
> > Nobody there, to my knowledge, is local here except for me.  Doug  
> > was in
> > a debate with (among others) Christopher Hitchins.
> >
> > http://www.rfmedia.org/RF_audio_video/Other_clips/CT-Expo-Panel/
> >
> > I didn't realize Doug co-authored a book with him ("Is Christianity  
> > Good
> > for the World?").  Congratulations to Doug.  I don't agree with much  
> > of
> > what he said, but kudos for being invited and for doing well (I  
> > thought)
> > in the debate.
> >
> > Paul
> >
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