[Vision2020] Who said . . .

[g. crabtree]

My point, fading or otherwise, was quite simple. Hanson claimed that he had 
"NEVER heard or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white 
trait." I was merely pointing out that someone, whose opinion I would 
presume he might respect, had. Nothing more and nothing less, no 
editorializing as to whether there was any merit to the claim or not. I am 
laboring under the assumption that the president has slightly more expertise 
in this particular field then hansen does.

g

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .


> Obama calls this "slander".
>
> And your point ... (fades off into the distance ...)
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:14 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  wrote:
>
>> "I NEVER heard or read that if a black student excelled  academically, 
>> (s)he
>> was doing the white thing."
>>
>> Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that 
>> government
>> alone can't teach kids to learn. They know that parents have to  parent, 
>> that
>> children can't achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn  off 
>> the
>> television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth  with a
>> book is acting white."
>>   -Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004
>>
>> Apparently BHO has.
>>
>> g
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
>>
>>
>>> Pop Quiz Time . . .
>>>
>>> A local blahster stated (in his words, and his words alone),  so . . . 
>>> who
>>> said:
>>>
>>> "The current theory is that boys are failing in school because  doing 
>>> well
>>> in school is perceived as a feminine trait, prompting the 'You're  so 
>>> gay'
>>> harassment.
>>>
>>> It's similar to the taunt among African-Americans that doing well in
>>> school is a white trait."
>>>
>>> --------------
>>>
>>> V-peeps:  I am 57 years old.  I have attended public schools in Los
>>> Angeles and North Idaho.  While attending these public schools I  NEVER
>>> heard or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white  trait."
>>>
>>> During my 20-year tenure in the United States Army, which included  five
>>> CONUS (Continental United States) assignments (from Fort Dix, New 
>>> Jersey
>>> to Presidio of San Francisco, California) and six overseas  assignments
>>> (four in Germany, one in South Korea, and one in Vietnam), I NEVER 
>>> heard
>>> or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white trait."
>>>
>>> I have heard and read of incidents where members of minorities were
>>> excluded from admission to certain public facilities.  But I NEVER 
>>> heard
>>> or read that if a black student excelled academically, (s)he was  doing 
>>> the
>>> white thing.
>>>
>>> But, then there are a couple local private schools here in
>>> Vandalville . . . Perhaps those are the schools to which this  blahgster
>>> refers.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't  forget 
>>> to
>>> have fun doin' it.  Lord, let your laughter ring forth.  Be  outrageous,
>>> ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom  can
>>> produce.  And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the 
>>> sheer
>>> joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much  fun 
>>> it
>>> was."
>>>
>>> - Molly
>>> Ivins
>>>
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