[Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party

Sat Apr 18 18:16:57 PDT 2009

Gary,

I like the idea of less government, but over the past several months, the private sector has been hemorrhaging quite a large number of jobs which which in turn swells the ranks of those who are dependent on government.  The period of 2006-2008 with a Republican President coupled with a Democratic Congress in my opinion was a toxic mix that resulted in this economic meltdown.

>From my viewpoint, it just looks like whoever has the White House often galvanizes the opposing party to sweep into power.  FWIW, I don't think we're heading to Hell with either party.  I just don't think there is ever going to be a 'one size, fits all' party that can simultaneously cater to both the urban blue crowd that in general wants more government services and the rural red crowd that can pretty much fend for themselves without much - if any - government involvement.  As such, the political pendulum just keeps swinging from side to side and right now it's pegged to the liberal side and I suspect it will swing back to some sort of split balance in the 2010 mid-terms.

Until then, the situation is what it is with 100's of billions dollars being printed up and pumped into the economy.  I can't see how it won't work in the near term to stimulate the economy.  In the long term, however, I can't see how we won't wind up with inflation galore.  And like those who know how to prosper in a falling stock market, those who know how to increase their wealth during heavy inflational periods with do just fine.  The rest of us will feel the pain and then vote the current crop of bums out of office so that the newly elected ones will embark on their version of continuing to screw things up.

-Scott

From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:19:31 -0700

"do you really think the Republicans are so much better when they're in 
power versus the Democrats?"

The difference is going to Hell in a hand basket vs. by 
many multiple billions of dollars worth of high speed rail. With the Republicans 
there is the hope and slim possibility of a change of course. To my mind, no 
such hope exists for the democrat party at least the one we have now as led by 
Pelosi, Reid, and BHO. When it comes to the "social issues" it becomes no 
contest. Anti-abortion, pro second amendment, less government is better 
government types will never be comfortable with our current crop of thieves and 
marxists.

g

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Scott 
  Dredge 
  To: viz 
  Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea 
  Party

Gary,

I had no complaints about medicare part D.  
  It makes sense to me that older folks ought to have access to the medicine 
  that they need and would not otherwise be able to afford.  I'd like that 
  same benefit to be in place when I'm in the same situation of needing meds but 
  not being able to afford them.

Also, do you really think the 
  Republicans are so much better when they're in power versus the 
  Democrats?  It seems to me that either the economy just cyclicly tanks 
  big time roughly every 34 years (1930. 1974, and 2008) and /or this is due to 
  Republican rule.  Since neither party is capable of containing the all 
  powerful spending lobbies, I don't think Republican 'borrow and spend' policy 
  is any better - and is in all likelihood worse - than Democrat 'tax and spend' 
  policy.

And why is that all the obvious and predictable trouble created 
  by Frank, Dodd, and Company can not be overturned and fixed once the 
  Republicans have consolidated power in all three branches of American 
  government from 2000-2006?  Incompetence?  Greed?  Washington 
  DC Hookers?  All of the above?  What other explanation can there 
  be?

I'm no fan of the AIG bailout an the so-called 'retention' bonuses 
  of $750,000 and up for the AIG executives who ran that company into the 
  ground.  This just again looks like more rewarding of incompentence and 
  greed.

Since both parties suck, the only other thing that keeps the 
  electorate voting for their pet party must be social policy.  Basically 
  abortion and gay rights and few other corner case battle lines.

Still 
  just sitting back and watching all the fun,

-Scott

  From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com; 
  philosopher.joe at gmail.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 
  19:38:03 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
  Moscow Tea Party

  Why indeed! When GW lost his mind and implemented 
  medicare part D who complained? The same folks you might have seen at the 15 
  April protest. Who did you hear nary a peep from? democrats and liberals. When 
  the pathology got worse and the man started in with bail out fever, who 
  complained? The exact same people you would have had the pleasure of meeting 
  on NSA square on tax day. Who was conspicuously silent? The folks who created 
  the problem, Frank, Dodd, & Co. and the people who elected them. When our 
  current illustrious president was running for his most recent community 
  organizing position we heard quite a few promises about fiscal responsibility. 
  Now that he's in the cat bird seat what do we have? Spending that makes Bush 
  look like Ebenezer Scrooge. I think that I can safely say that no one at the 
  gathering felt the slightest bit of shame other than for the sorry direction 
  that the country seems to be headed in under our current leaders gross fiscal 
  mismanagement.

  g

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    Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Matt 
    Decker 
    To: 
    philosopher.joe at gmail.com ; fotopro63 at hotmail.com 
    Cc: 
    vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: 
    Friday, April 17, 2009 5:25 PM
    Subject: 
    Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party

Why?

MD

    From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: 
    fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Date: 
    Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:31:17 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: 
    Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party

    Anyone who was at this protest yet did not attend one protest about 
    Bush over the last eight years should be ashamed of him or 
    herself.

Joe Campbell

On Apr 17, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com> 
    wrote:

      Think it was only conservatives at the protest?
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