[Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
bear at moscow.com
bear at moscow.com
Fri Apr 17 08:20:12 PDT 2009
FINALLY!
> Bear,
>
> None of the OT 10 commandments directly say "love thy neighbor." But, I
t> hink it is part of the First Commandment. I may be wrong. But I think
Lovin> g God and your neighbor, is. That is what I was taught in CCD and at
Sunshi> ne Summer, and from my conversations with my Priest. Love thy neighbor,
and> love God, the most important, and the first commandment.
>
> I do see your argument that it doesn't directly spell it out in any
command> ments. But in the Catechism it does, and that is what I look at for
explana> tions as the meaning of things in the Bible. I don't read the KJV of the
Bi> ble, I don't think it works like that. Catholics don't really read the
Bibl> e and interpret. It is done for us by Bible Scholars and put into context
f> or us. I don't think anyone on the V is really able to explain or
understan> d the Bible enough to argue it successfully.
>
> No, I certainly am not a shining example of loving my neighbor. Especially
> lawyers. I think everyone that knows me, knows that I loathe lawyers.
Esp> ecially ones that free child molesters and are intentionally dishonest.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "Sunil Ramalingam"
<sunilramalingam at hotma> il.com>, "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:53 AM
>
>
> Donovan, and Visionaries,
>
> Donovan you're wrong and just wiggling now. I'll get you off the hook and
a> sk a straight
> forward question:
>
> YOU stated, "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor".
Simple> question,
> WHICH
> ONE of the TEN COMMANDMENTS says that?
>
> If you can't answer it, it ends this discussion of which you are so ill
equ> ipped to
> participate in.
>
> And I love how YOU demonstrate how YOU love your neighbors by verbally
abus> ing Sunil and
> calling him names! A great example!
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> > Oh, I've read it several times. It doesn't make your case.
> >
> > Sunil
> > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:49:17 -0700
> > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> >
> > Sunil,
> >
> > Are you aware that a post preceded this post?:First, the Ten Commandants
> > say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?
> >
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html
> >
> > I don't think you are. I think you think this was the start of the
> conversa> tion. And that you are unaware that this is the response to a
que> stion,
> n> ot the start of a new conversation.
> >
> > Read the post before this one that you quoted, Then get back to me.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Donovan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> wro> te:
> >
> >
> > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:48 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is your post in which you said
> > First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html
> >
> > As you, or at least any honest person, can see, you then go on to
> try> to prove your point by quoting Jesus. But what Jesus said
was> not one
> of> the Ten Commandments.
> >
> > You never said 'The Ten Commandments, as I interpret them, or claim
> Cat> holic doctrine interprets them, say "Love your Neighbor."
> >
> > Here is Wayne's (Bear's) post in which he disagreed with you and asked
yo> u
> > which commandment said that.
> >
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html
> >
> > Hey look, I'm able to substantiate what I said! That puts me way ahead
> of> you, Mr. Burning Pants.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:54 -0700
> > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sunil,
> >
> > Please quote what you believe to be the original question, and point to
> w> here Wayne references the term Ten Commandments in it.
> >
> > Your inability to do so, I believe, will show any dishonesty.
> >
> > "Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the
> Te> n Commandments."
> >
> > I am not pretending, that is your job, not mine. I have to actually
> pro> duce something.besides twisty words.
> >
> > According to the Catholic Church, the Ten Commandments do encompass
> Lovin> g God and Loving thy Neighbor. I tried to explain that by quoting
Je> sus
> fro> m Matthew and providing a link to Wikipedia that explains it.
> >
> > If you want to reject the Catholic interpretation of the Ten
> Commandants,> or the Teachings of Christ, that is your choice. But I am
> not
> pretending> .. I have reason to do so.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Donovan
> >
> > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> wro> te:
> >
> >
> > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 9:00 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I've looked at the thread, and Wayne's account below is absolutely
> correc> t.
> >
> > An honest person will be able to acknowledge that.
> >
> > Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the
> Ten> Commandments.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > > To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
> vision> 2020 at moscow.com
> > > From: bear at moscow.com
> > > Subject: BACK to the Original Question
> > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:42 +0000
> > >
> > > Donovan,
> > >
> > > YOU wrote: "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do
> > you disagree?"
> > >
> > > And YES, I do disagree. NO WHERE in the Ten Commandments does it say
> th> at! And you have
> > > offered no reasonably accepted answer to back up your spurious claim
> that> it is the TEN
> > > COMMANDMENTS.
> > >
> > > And not only did you misquote me, but you took the discussion
> completel> y out of context!
> > >
> > > MY words, the way I wrote
> > them and the way they are on Vision 2020 are:" You state below
> > > that
> > > 'God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them', where? In
> > the Bible?"
> > >
> > > So before you call Sunil a snake and accuse him of slithering, answer
> t> he original
> > > question, WHERE
> > > in the bible does it say, " .... not to sell and abuse " your neighbor?
> > >
> > >
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