[Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce

[Ralph Nielsen]

This is what God said,

Exodus 21:2
When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the  
seventh he shall go out free, for nothing.
Exodus 21:7
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the  
male slaves do.
Exodus 21:20
When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the  
slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.
Exodus 21:21
But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for  
the slave is his money.

Remember, Donovan, I didn't write this, nor am I interpreting it, I  
am just quoting it. If you sell your daughter as a slave, she shall  
remain a slave for the rest of her life. If you breed her, her  
offspring are also your slaves, which you may keep, sell, or bequeath  
to your sons.

Leviticus 25:44
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy  
male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you.
Leviticus 25:46
You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as a  
possession for ever; you may make slaves of them, but over your  
brethren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another,  
with harshness.

But remember, you may not make your slaves work on Saturdays:

Exodus 20:10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God;  
in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter,  
your male slave, or your female slave, or your cattle, or the  
sojourner who is within your gates;

Read the Bible carefully, Doug does.

Ralph



On Apr 13, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:

> That line doesn't say it is OK to make your daughter a slave, it  
> just says if you do, you protect her. Do not treat her as a male  
> slave. It is sort of a common sense thing, as she would violated  
> for sure.
>
> If I say, "You should not beat your slave.", it doesn't mean I want  
> people to be slaves.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 4:12 PM
>
> I am not interpreting anything in the Bible, Donovan. I am simply  
> quoting it without comment. How can that be corrupted? I didn't  
> write the Bible, did I? Here is what God said, believe it or not:
>
> Exd 21:7
> "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as  
> the male slaves do.
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>> Ralph,
>>
>> The Bible is not the law of the land. And I don't know of any men,  
>> including Wilson, that want to adopt Leviticus or Exodus as such.
>>
>> God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them.
>>
>> Women were sold in ancient times, or given a dowry, in order to  
>> repay the father for the cost of raising and protecting her, which  
>> was expensive to do. You have to watch them 24 hours a day.
>>
>> Your interpretation of God, and the Bible seems extremely  
>> corrupted. Perhaps it is your prejudice against people that know a  
>> loving God exists.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>> --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 2:54 PM
>>
>> I don't think anyone suggested that he was, Donovan. But there are  
>> all too many like him who want to make it the law of the land.
>>
>> As I pointed out, the God of the Bible says it is OK for a father  
>> to sell his daughter into slavery. Doug seems to lack a sense of  
>> morality so he goes by the rule that if it's biblical, it's moral.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>
>>> Wilson is not the law of the land. He is not in a position to  
>>> enforce his religious symbolism literally on the country. Only  
>>> people that wish to follow his words do, not by force.
>>>
>>> There seems to be a deep sense of confusion amongst some liberals  
>>> between religious symbolism and an actual judge and government  
>>> forcing an 8 year old girl to marry a 40-something year old man.
>>>
>>> As a Christian, I believe, and my religious leaders will tell me,  
>>> to honor my Mother and Father, and I willfully try to do so.  
>>> However, they are not advocating that it be law that I do  
>>> whatever my parents tell me to do as an adult.
>>>
>>> I don't know Wilson theology, but I am sure he is against 8 year  
>>> old girls being forced to marry and do whatever a 40 year old man  
>>> tells her to do. I am sure he is also against the buying and  
>>> selling of people as property. But even if he wasn't, who cares,  
>>> he isn't in a position, or seeking a position, to enforce it. I  
>>> am concerned with those that are being forced right now, and an  
>>> ancient system of governing that is operates serious injustices  
>>> against people, especially women and children.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Donovan
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
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