[Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq

Tue Apr 7 10:16:46 PDT 2009

Donovan --

Oh. So you're recommending not killing every Arab, merely engaging in an
indefinite program of unremitting brutality in order to compel them to give
up their culture.

-- ACS

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> No Andreas, you misunderstand.
>
> I am talking about destroying a society, not genocide. And not just for
> killing Gay men, but for the mistreat and abuse, and murder of millions,
> including woman which account for over half of the society.
>
> When a society victimizes over half its people, it should not exist. A
> society is suppose to exist to protect its people. All people should
> generally benefit from a society, otherwise, it is a society and is unjust
> and unworthy of existence.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/6/09, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 2:02 PM
>
> Donovan --
>
> No, really. You're recommending "destroying a society," including, I
> assume, killing every gay member of that society, in retribution for the
> extrajudicial murder of six gay men. The problem you're decrying would be
> caused -- at an immeasurable scale -- by the solution you propose.
>
> -- ACS
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Donovan Arnold <
> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>   Andreas,
>>
>> Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 4/6/09, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ophite@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ophite@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com>
>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:35 AM
>>
>>  Donovan --
>>
>> Genocide is a worse crime than six murders. That's all I'm saying.
>>
>> -- ACS
>>
>>  On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Donovan Arnold <
>> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>    Andreas,
>>>
>>> As opposed to funding and promoting these governments with our taxpayers
>>> money and military?
>>>
>>> It is ironic, that if these six gay men were denied admittance to the
>>> University of Idaho on the basis that they were thought to be gay, Andreas,
>>> Joe, and Paul would be up in arms and throwing a hissy fit. But when
>>> they are slaughtered with less dignity than pigs on a farm in the Middle
>>> East, they shrug and support the culture.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Donovan
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 4/6/09, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ophite@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ophite@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
>>> >
>>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com>
>>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 12:06 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>     Doesn't it make since to wipe these societies out? Eliminate them
>>>> while they are still small in size and limited in power? How many millennium
>>>> must pass before woman, gays, lesbians, and those that are a
>>>> little different stop being set on fire and shot before the world says,
>>>> "ENOUGH! evolve already, of or we will destroy your Neanderthal cave man
>>>> thinking society."
>>>>
>>>
>>>  Yes, Donovan. The rational response to a society that murders gays is
>>> to, instead, murder everyone, including the gays. Because that's
>>> non-discriminatory.
>>>
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