[Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq

[Joe Campbell]

Are you trying to say that the over the top persecution of gays by  
fundamentalists - Christian and otherwise - is not connected with  
violence toward and the legal oppression of gays?

Joe Campbell

On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com 
 > wrote:

> Christians that dislike gays don't shoot them in a plotted murder  
> and burn down gay bars and coffee shops, and they certainly don't do  
> it openly and publicly to their family members and walk away. Nor do  
> they thrown gasoline on woman and light them on fire for breaking a  
> commandment. These societies are primates with guns. Christians  
> don't support murder, and legalized rape.
>
> The comparison is FUBAR.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:06 PM
>
> Donovan,
>
> I don't think that hatred of gays is particular to any one religion.  
> Why on this very town there are Christians who hate gays. That  
> doesn't mean we should draw any conclusions about Christians in  
> general or our "Christian nation."
>
> Like you I condemn radical views from any religious point of view.  
> Religion cannot justify wrong action.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> I want to know, from some of these liberals that want to protect  
>> the lifestyle of the Middle Eastern Nations, how you think these  
>> societies should be allowed to exist where people kill members of  
>> their own family, simply because of their sexual orientation. And  
>> not just kill them, but premeditated massacres.
>>
>> Afghanistan is voting on a bill that legalizes men to be able to  
>> rape their wives, and these are supposedly the "good people" in  
>> these societies. Pakistan's ruling Taliban set their women on fire  
>> for disobeying Muslim law, or their Husband. The Middle East forces  
>> woman to marry men they do not know, love, or even like.
>>
>> Doesn't it make since to wipe these societies out? Eliminate them  
>> while they are still small in size and limited in power? How many  
>> millennium must pass before woman, gays, lesbians, and those that  
>> are a little different stop being set on fire and shot before the  
>> world says, "ENOUGH! evolve already, of or we will destroy your  
>> Neanderthal cave man thinking society."?
>>
>>
>> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Six gay men were shot dead by members of  
>> their tribe in two separate incidents in the past 10 days, an  
>> official with Iraq's Interior ministry said.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/index.html
>>
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