[Vision2020] Lies, Damn Lies And Science

[Donovan Arnold]

Never underestimate the stupidity of humans. 
 
Remember the joke in the 90s, they said more people believed in the existence of UFOs than the existence of their Social Security when they reached the age of retirement. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Lies, Damn Lies And Science
To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Cc: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 8:52 AM


The funny thing is that if you talk with scientists there really is no  
issue here. How did this get to be a "political" issue in the first  
case? Isn't it an empirical issue?

Joe Campbell

On Apr 4, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Great.  Another excuse to cram it down our throats.  I can't wait.
>
> I don't know what the real answers are, but I do know that this topic
> has been so politicized that it sickens me.  It trips my "bullshit"
> meter, and layers on an extra level of skepticism that I would  
> normally
> not have had.
>
> Paul
>
> Ted Moffett wrote:
>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett:
>>
>> This article from EOS ('/Examining the Scientific consensus on  
>> Climate
>> Change/', *Volume 90*, Number 3, 2009, available to American
>> Geophysical Union members) which is quoted by Realclimate.org lower
>> down and is available to the public at the website first below,  
>> claims
>> that only 58 percent of the public in the US thinks that human
>> activity is a significant contributing factor in changing the mean
>> global temperature, as opposed to 97% of specialists surveyed.  This
>> is a very recent effort to quantify the scientific consensus on the
>> validity of anthropogenic climate change and contrast this consensus
>> with public opinion:
>>
>> http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
>> <http://tigger.uic.edu/%7Epdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf>
>> ------------------------------
>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/03/a-potentially-useful-book-lies-damn-lies-science/#more-661
>>
>>
>>
>>    29 March 2009
>>
>>
>>      A potentially useful book - Lies, Damn lies & Science
>>
>> Filed under:
>>
>>    * Communicating Climate
>>      <http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/category/communicating-climate/ 
>> >
>>
>> — rasmus @ 1:26 PM
>>
>> Lies, Damned Lies, and ScienceAccording to a recent article in Eos
>> (Doran and Zimmermann
>> <http://www.agu.org/journals/eo/eo0903/2009EO030002.pdf#anchor>,
>> '/Examining the Scientific consensus on Climate Change/', *Volume  
>> 90*,
>> Number 3, 2009; p. 22-23 - only available for AGU members *-  
>> update: a
>> public link to the article is here
>> <http://tigger.uic.edu/%7Epdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf>*), about 58%
>> of the general public in the US thinks that human activity is a
>> significant contributing factor in changing the mean global
>> temperature, as opposed to 97% of specialists surveyed. The
>> disproportion between these numbers is a concern, and one possible
>> explanation may be that the science literacy among the general public
>> is low. Perhaps Sherry Seethaler's new book /'Lies, Damn Lies, and
>> Science'/ can be a useful contribution in raising the science  
>> literacy?
>>
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