[Vision2020] IDAHOANS FOR FAIRNESS RALLY THIS SATURDAY AT NOON

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 3 11:41:05 PDT 2009


Bear,
 
I don't know how someone can be against torture and for marriage. It is an oxymoron. :P
 
But seriously, I don't think most Gays care to join the military or get married. However, I do believe in equal rights for everyone. I think it is unfair to tax gays and lesbians more and deny them the same benefits as everyone else by denying the claim of marriage on their tax returns.  
 
Idaho is behind the civil rights movement, way, way behind. You know, even the majority of Idaho Human Rights Commission members are against equality for gays and lesbians. 
 
The East coast has a different time zone than the Western States, when it is 9:01 PM in New York, it is 1901 in Idaho.
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Fri, 4/3/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:


From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] IDAHOANS FOR FAIRNESS RALLY THIS SATURDAY AT NOON
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net, "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 9:40 AM


Donovan,

Thanks for pointing out to us that even Iowa is a more progressive and enlightened state
than 
Idaho!

Maybe it's time to just get governments - local, state and federal out of bedrooms!

The personnel loss to the military over their silly "don't ask -don't tell" policy has
been 
significant.
We have lost the service of everything from  translators to infantry because of it. When I
need 
something translated or shot, I could care less what the soldier does in his or her off
time! 
Plus, it's a matter of fairness to non-gays to allow gays in the military. IF you accept
the most 
recent surveys that in the United States, about 10% of the population is gay and using
that 
statistic, some of the results are amazing. My personal belief is that there are not more
or less 
gays than there were in the past, they are just more visible and "out of the closet". So,
ten 
percent of the military IS gay, just not out of the closet.  Even more significant is that
there 
have been about 3600 Medals of Honor earned. 360 gay winers?  Approximately 16 million men

and women served in the US Military during WW 2, 10% would be about 1.6 million! Makes you

think.

I've heard all of the old tired arguments dragged out over and over again as to why gays 
shouldn't be allowed to serve, and they don't hold water!  Every time you see one of those

reason, if you substitute "Black" or "Women"  when the verbage reads "gay" you'll see what
I 
mean.  

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> Speaking of which, Gay marriage was just legalized in Iowa.   
> http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html  
> Best Regards, 
> Donovan
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