[Vision2020] Say What?

[Donovan Arnold]

Tell me Bear, why didn't Native Americans get to keep their land if treaties are valid?
 
Treaties are rather meaningless if the US Government can withdraw from them at anytime. 
 
And again, you fail to understand that the treaty is only valid because the US Federal Government Approves of it as law, not because an outside entity does. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:


From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
To: vision2020 at moscow.com, donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com, idahotom at hotmail.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 12:39 PM


Donovan, you wrote, 

"I don't see the United States government as having the right to concede powers it doesn't
have. 
The people of the United States never consented to international law. So it isn't valid
unless if also 
happens to also be federal or state law.
Treaties are simply agreements between to two or more parties. I don't consider them law 
abiding. They are simply if and then statements, such as if you give a $10 Billion and
shut down 
your ship production I will not bomb you. If you don't I will continue, or if you allow us
to ship in 
100 million auto parts, we will allow you to ship in 20 million computer parts if you
don't, we 
won't. You must have the consent of the governed, international law doesn't."
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I am still amazed that you don't understand the 6th Article of the US Constitution which
stares in 
part: " Article Six establishes the Constitution, and the laws and treaties of the United
States made 
in accordance with it, to be the supreme law of the land".

End of argument, the US Constitution makes treaties the supreme law of the land. They ARE 
federal laws! Officers of the Executive Branch of government take an oath "to support and
defend 
the Constitution of the United States", so if the violate the Supreme Law of the Land,
they are in 
violation of that very
oath!

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