[Vision2020] Palin and library books
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 9 17:20:25 PDT 2008
It's always difficult to set standards for discourse on a list like this. Jeff doesn't think that Tom should post links to articles on Palin's per diem claims. many others might find the information helpful or interesting.
I think Jeff made incorrect statements in his recent post on 9/11, but I wouldn't say he shouldn't have posted his thoughts. I would be interested in his defense of them, but despite my personal views it's certainly not my place to say that they were so far below the bar they shouldn't have been posted. I think that claims that we were attacked because our attackers hate freedom are nonsense, and serve only to head off discussion of the real issues at hand, but people are free to post such stuff. I just think they should be prepared to defend their statements once they've been offered.
Sunil
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:07:40 -0700
To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net
From: jeffh at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin and library books
Of course, you have overlooked the fact that it has been reported that a
constituent (or group of constituents) had asked her what the procedure
was for challenging the book inventory. As a proper role for an
elected official, she researched the issue (with the librarian, as I am
to understand) and informed the constituent of the procedure and protocol
for challenging the book inventory.
What is a bit murky, the librarian - reportedly a democrat - chose to use
the incident in a political move.
Perhaps we will learn more about this.
From a cynical perspective, I do hope that the pundits, the democrats,
the liberals, the far left and others continue to attack Gov Sarah Palin
on family and personal issues. These petty attacks on her
character, her religion, her children go a long way to raising her
visibility with the voting public.
Even the demo candidate Sen Obama has asked for the personal attacks to
stop. That hasn't seemed to stop the tenor and vitriol of the
attacks. Obama doesn't seem to have much control over those
elements.
Are the issues not relevant? Maybe we could talk about Biden's 3
sector plan for Iraq. How does Palin feel about that? Perhaps we
could explore the VPs' positions on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
What about education - both candidates have a record of positions on
education.
Raise the bar, please. A recent post (by Hansen) insinuating that
Palin was inappropriately using state funds for travel and overnight
stays, and using her home for overnight reimbursement. This kind of
penmanship terror should stop - Hansen should know better - his tactics
are an insult to our locals . You folks are all better than this -
and smart enough to ask penetrating and relevant questions.
There are numerous articles and newsreports, fully researched, that would
reveal the "real story" about Palin's expense
reimbursements. Cut to the chase - contact Kim Garnero, Alaska
State Finance Director, whose responsibilities include expense
reimbursement for state employees.
Thanks.
t 04:16 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
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While there’s no doubt that Palin discussed (a discussion she’s
subsequently labeled “rhetorical”) banning books with the City’s
librarian, the book list below canNOT be attributed to Palin. Its
origins seems to be this:
http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html
The specific titles of books Palin was interested in banning is of no
interest to me; of great interest and concern to me is that
banning books was a topic in which Palin had any interest and
tells me a great deal about her.
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
~ Edmund Burke
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[
mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of keely
emerinemix
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 2:36 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Palin and library books
>From Jeff's cousin -- interesting information about Sarah Palin and
her attempts to get books banned from the Wasilla, Alaska, library when
she was mayor.
Flicka????!!!!!! Webster's Ninth Collegiate
Dictionary?????!!!!
OK, I guess "Our Bodies, Ourselves" isn't a surprise . . .
Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
From: RGPsme at aol.com
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:38:09 -0400
Subject: (no subject)
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Let's spend a few moments browsing the list of books Mayor Sarah Palin
tried to get town librarian Mary Ellen Baker to ban in the lovely,
all-American town of Wasilla, Alaska. When Baker refused to remove
the books from the shelves, Palin threatened to fire her. The story
was reported in Time Magazine and the list comes from the librarian.net
website.
I'm sure you'll find your own personal favorites among the classics Palin
wanted to protect the good people of Wasilla from, but the ones that
jumped out at me were the four Stephen King novels (way to go Stephen,
John Steinbeck only got three titles on the list), that notorious piece
of communist pornography "My Friend Flicka," the usual
assortment of Harry Potter books, works by Shakespeare, Walt Whitman,
Kurt Vonnegut, Mark Twain (always fun to see those two names together),
Arthur Miller, and Aristophanes, as well as "Our Bodies,
Ourselves" (insert your own Bristol Palin joke here), and the
infamous one-two punch of depravity: "To Kill a
Mockingbird" and "Little Red Riding Hood." But the
cherry on the sundae, the topper, is Sarah Palin's passionate, religious
mission to clear the shelves of the Wasilia Public Library of that
ultimate evil tome: "Webster's Ninth New Collegiate
Dictionary." That's the one with " equality,"
"free speech" and "justice " in it.
Go over to your book case and take down one of the books you'll find on
the list (I know you've got a couple) and give it a read in honor of the
founding fathers. Then tell me I'm not the only voter who doesn't
want this woman within thirty feet of the United States Constitution.
Sarah Palin's Book Club
A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter20and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to G o by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher
Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
M y Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to=2 0Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughte rhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.< br> Tarzan of the Apes
by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary--Merriam-Webster Editorial
Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween
Symbols by Edna Barth
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