[Vision2020] Roger's response

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Fri Oct 31 10:34:56 PDT 2008


Thanks Sue
I appreciate it.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:42:18 -0700
To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com,  thansen at moscow.com, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: Roger's response

> Roger, you are quite correct.  For what it's worth, I'm willing to let this 
> retraction go.
> 
> Sue
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>; 
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Roger's response
> 
> 
> > As soon as it was questioned, I checked it out and immediately corrected 
> > what I said. To the best that I can remember that was on the vision. I am 
> > not responsible for what Don Said. You guys are something else. You wont 
> > let a retraction go. You continue to bash me.  You do the same to  John 
> > McCain for his association with Keeting 25 years ago. Something he said 
> > "was the biggest mistake of his life". But you continue to give Obama a 
> > pass on his obvious untruths.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
> > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:12:28 -0700
> > To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com,  thansen at moscow.com, 
> > sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Roger's response
> >
> >> Now that's interesting.  How do you retract a statement in a rebuttal?
> >> However, if you had done it before the election we would not have had to
> >> spend the money to defuse the situation and give lie to the statement.
> >> And neither Shirley nor I remember a retraction, let alone an apology. 
> >> Don
> >> Meyer's letter was published in the Daily News on Nov 1st and from that 
> >> time
> >> until the vote on Nov 7,  you wrote no retraction statement for the Daily
> >> News, and offered no explanation other than to stand by the story. In 
> >> fact,
> >> the day before the election in an attempt to smear her further you
> >> plublished an ad dealing with the pledge.  You say you retracted it
> >> publically in the Vision.  Well that wasn't where the charge appeared, 
> >> but
> >> even so, it didn't happen prior to the election or I would have made a 
> >> copy
> >> and thanked you for it.    Jim Fisher's editorial came out after the
> >> election on November 10, in which he said you owed Shirley an apology.  I
> >> guess you retracted that, because she never got one.  And unless you 
> >> would
> >> like to post some documentation to support your claim, I really am 
> >> through
> >> with this issue.  And I'm grateful that Shirley  hasn't had to deal with
> >> mudslinging in her race this year.  Of course Don Meyer may have episode 
> >> #2
> >> just waiting.
> >>
> >> Sue Hovey
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> >> To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>;
> >> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan
> >>
> >>
> >> >I did retract it publicly. On vision2020 and in a rebuttal to Jim 
> >> >Fischer.
> >> > Roger
> >> > -----Original message-----
> >> > From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
> >> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:39:20 -0700
> >> > To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com,  thansen at moscow.com,
> >> > sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan
> >> >
> >> >> Roger, this was a campaign ago, but it continues to have relevance. 
> >> >> The
> >> >> charge came out in the Daily News in a letter to the editor from Don
> >> >> Meyer.
> >> >> You did not retract it when you found out it was untrue. When I called
> >> >> Don
> >> >> on it he blamed Gary Schroeder and Tom Trail, but backed off that 
> >> >> claim
> >> >> and
> >> >> hung up on me when I told him I was going to call them for 
> >> >> verification.
> >> >> I
> >> >> didn't have to talk with him but a few minutes to realize he had no 
> >> >> valid
> >> >> information to support the claim.   You continued to circulate the 
> >> >> story.
> >> >> Right up till election day I had people call to ask if it were true.
> >> >> If
> >> >> you had retracted it publically, Shirley's campaign could have saved
> >> >> hundreds of dollars because we had to pay for an ad to rebut Don's 
> >> >> letter
> >> >> and your continued talk.  I know you didn't start the lie, but it was
> >> >> written to advocate a  vote for you instead of Shirley and you had a
> >> >> responsibility to validate it if you were going to continue to spread 
> >> >> it.
> >> >> You may have apologized to her personally after the campaign.  I think
> >> >> you
> >> >> probably did, but the damage was done by then.  Fortunately she won
> >> >> anyway
> >> >> even though I know that lie cost her votes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sue Hovey
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >> >> To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>;
> >> >> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>;
> >> >> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> >> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:22 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing 
> >> >> Monegan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Roger Falen stated:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "I did not lie. Repeating something that you think is true and
> >> >> > retracting
> >> >> > it when you find ot that it is not, is not lying. If it is you are
> >> >> > guilty
> >> >> > of a lot of it. I am sure that if I had the time I could go back 
> >> >> > though
> >> >> > the archives and find plenty of time where you have been less than
> >> >> > truthful. These kinds of personals attacks are ar reflection of you, 
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > one else. Please argue the facts as you understand them and or 
> >> >> > opinions
> >> >> > and leave out the personal insults."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I simply asked you to substantiate your claim that Barack Obama
> >> >> > announced
> >> >> > his candidacy for the Illinois state senate from the house of Bill
> >> >> > Ayers . . . nothing, nothing less.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I AM arguing the facts, Roger.  Senator Obama NEVER announced his
> >> >> > candidacy for the Illinois state senate (or any other elected 
> >> >> > office),
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > ANY time, from the house of Bill Ayers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you desire to attack me with your claims of my dishonesty . . .
> >> >> > please
> >> >> > do.  I can handle the "weight".  Besides, I have come to expect such
> >> >> > criticism from you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Otherwise this conversation has not only lost any sense of validity, 
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > has lost my interest.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tom Hansen
> >> >> > Moscow, Idaho
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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