[Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the tank) Press

[No Weatherman]

When you state:

"I also don't like the implication that the rich 'earned it and
deserve it'. That would imply that the poor and the middle class did
not earn it or deserve it. That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand
the position you are taking."

You are stating your opinion.

You are free to hold whatever opinion you like but this does not mean
the government should adopt your opinion as public policy.

What about my opinion?

It's a simple fact of life that some people make more money than
others, some people own better homes than others, and some people had
better breaks in life than others.

But these simple facts do not translate into a license for the
government to TAKE from these people because YOU think those people
can afford it.

If you follow your principle to its logical conclusion, your position
means that the government is entitled to TAKE anyone's possessions
when they believe that person does not deserve their belongings (or
when they think that person makes to much money), that is, unless you
draw the line at the point where Comrade Obama comes to your door and
tells you to hand him your goods.

Unfortunately, you will not have reason to complain. He'll say to you,
"But you thought was morally acceptable when I took THEIR money and
gave it to my homies. Now I want your money. Crack ain't cheap."

Consistency requires you to avail your belongings to the state as long
as you authorize the state to take other people's belongings.


On 10/27/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Are you really trying to equate a non-linear tax model as "socialism"?
> That's a stretch, in my opinion.  Everyone is still paying taxes, except for
> the very poorest of us.  The percentages just change.
>
>  I also don't like the implication that the rich "earned it and deserve it".
>  That would imply that the poor and the middle class did not earn it or
> deserve it.  That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand the position you are
> taking.  You appear to think that just because you've been lucky (yes,
> lucky) enough to make good money, you deserve it more than the next guy.
> There are just as many hard-working poor and middle class people as there
> are hard-working privileged people, if not more.
>
>  As for the fear that Obama will raise taxes for everyone eventually, well,
> someone has to take responsibility and pay back the enormous debt that the
> current administration has heaped on us, don' t you think?  Especially if we
> intend to continue the nationalizing of banks that the current
> administration has started.
>
>  Paul
>
>  No Weatherman wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > >  Actually, it's called paying a portion of what you make to a central
> pool
> > > which will be used to take care of things no one person wants to take
> care
> > > of.  Things like roads, military defense, social security, research,
> > > education, health care, the national debt, disaster relief, veteran's
> > > benefits, and the occasional crackhead and/or welfare queen that gets
> away
> > > with gaming the system.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You need to distinguish between tax-based necessities and tax-based
> > socialism. Crackheads and welfare queens are not in the same category
> > as roads, defense, vet's benefits, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > >  The "minority" has been getting away with murder for longer than you or
> I
> > > have been around.  They've been sipping mai-tais in Hawaii and
> complaining
> > > that their new Beemer has a scratch on the fender.  They don't arouse
> all
> > > that much pity from me.  They can survive a tax hike far more easily
> than
> > > the other 95% of us can.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Strawman notwithstanding, if they earned it they deserve it.
> >
> > And the moment you arbitrarily draw the line at Hawaiian vacations and
> > Beemers, you've invited the Obamas of the world (socialists) to move
> > that line anywhere they want.
> >
> > Do you know where they want to move it?
> >
> > Last I heard Obama floated $250,000 and you and I both know that's not
> > low enough to finance his vision.
> >
> > It doesn't matter, though, because you've already given him permission
> > to take other people's money so he can redistribute it to the
> > crackheads.
> >
> > So he'll nudge it down to $200,000. Then $150,000. Then $100,000. And
> > before you know it, somewhere in there he found our bracket. He'll
> > find Ms. Lund's bracket. He'll find Ms. Mix's bracket. He'll find Mr.
> > London's bracket. He'll find Mr. Hansen's rubber doll's bracket.
> >
> > Once you give him permission to redistribute wealth, it won't stop at
> $250,000.
> >
> > Obama doesn't want "rich" people's money. He wants everyone's money.
> > He's a Farraking Communist.
> >
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