[Vision2020] Intoleristas

[keely emerinemix]

Glenn wrote to Sunil:  "Let's hope I don't get in some kind of legal jam and need
 you as an attorney to argue Constitutional law to the judge on my
 behalf."

I think you're better off with Sunil arguing Constitutional law than you are with a pastor attempting to argue that the Constitution doesn't describe what jurists would later describe as a "wall of separation" between church and state, and who also considers all outside his brand of Judeo-Christian civic expression to be nothing more than a worship service for "secular humanism."

Of course, better to have that man as a pastor than to be him.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:18:16 -0800
> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Intoleristas
> 
> I will submit that your definition of what is applicable or not is
> pretty narrow and inflexible (not to mention plain wrong in my humble
> opinion).  Let's hope I don't get in some kind of legal jam and need
> you as an attorney to argue Constitutional law to the judge on my
> behalf.
> 
> GS
> 
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > No, Glenns, this just means that your 'interpretation' is different from
> > that which is applicable.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:50:49 -0800
> >> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Intoleristas
> >>
> >> Tem Moffett refers to "a basic US Constitutional principle, the
> >> separation of church and state." Hmmm . . . I wasn't aware this was
> >> a basic US Constitutional principle. This idea is nothing more than
> >> complete metaphorical misrepresentation of the basic premise of the
> >> establishment clause, "Congress shall make no law respecting an
> >> establishment of religion. . ."
> >>
> >> This has become a major distortion thanks to the "interpretation" of
> >> laws (and in many instance the out and out making of laws) by the
> >> liberal side of the Supreme Court. The establishment clause was
> >> designed to prevent the establishment of a "state religion", not
> >> Christian Theism. As a result of the Supreme Court's work, we are
> >> witnessing the gradual obliteration of Christian Theism and the
> >> establishment of laws promoting humanism as a "state religion".
> >>
> >> Is this not exactly what the establishment clause in our constitution
> >> was intended to prevent? The Constitution is now allowing the
> >> government to force "nonconformists" to accept and live by "humanism".
> >> A definite turnabout of the true nature of our First Amendment
> >> rights.
> >>
> >> GS
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> Paul wrote:
> >> >> I thought Doug and Dale had
> >> >> libertarian tendencies. I would have thought they would be as much
> >> >> against gaming the system as I am, because it props up those who are by
> >> >> definition unworthy of being at the top.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > This could spark a long debate and likely one that has been played out
> >> > time
> >> > and again on the viz as well as both Dale's and Doug's sites especially
> >> > on
> >> > the topic of 501c3 non-profits and downtown parking where Doug claims
> >> > 'religious persecution by Interolistas' if anyone delves into the
> >> > validity
> >> > of these entities - specifically that they are not operating in manner
> >> > that
> >> > is 'gaming the system'.
> >> >
> >> > Doug and Dale do have libertarian leanings and want less to no
> >> > government
> >> > except for the most personal of personal issues (abortion, birth
> >> > control,
> >> > premarital sex, homosexuality, etc.) where they want a police state to
> >> > intervene and prevent whatever they deem as 'sinful'.
> >> >
> >> > BTW, I consider you a middle of the roader like me who is probably just
> >> > as
> >> > critical of the extreme left as you are of the extreme right. Your
> >> > writings
> >> > typically make logical sense to me.
> >> >
> >> > -Scott
> >> >
> >> >
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