[Vision2020] The Lord's Day
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Mon Nov 17 20:03:09 PST 2008
Given the past treatment from Kirkers of the real person who originally posted as JFord, it's not likely at all that the person now posing as him/her has the heart to stop, apologize, and get on with life -- never mind the balls.
Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:12:14 -0800
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Lord's Day
>
> I'm not particularly looking to have the law brought into this. I'm
> just hoping that whoever it is will someday possess the balls to own up
> to it, apologize, and start posting under another name.
>
> Paul
>
> Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > Isn't Jford a fictional handle anyway. You have someone pretending to
> > be someone that isn't really the person they say they are.
> >
> > Boy, this is just makes my head spin.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Donovan
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 11/17/08, Glenn Schwaller /<vpschwaller at gmail.com>/* wrote:
> >
> > From: Glenn Schwaller <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Lord's Day
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:05 PM
> >
> > Hmmmmmmmmmm - I'm not so sure this is an "actionable" action.
> > Certainly points 1 and 3 are not germane, and point 2 is questionable.
> > Since these are biblical quotes, one could argue that "any written
> > instrument . . .delivered and used as true" does not apply since many
> > feel such writings are not true. One could possibly argue that J Ford
> > is not a real person, but him/her self writing under a pseudonym, so
> > is it illegal to impersonate an impersonator?? Or alternatively one
> > could argue that obviously it's not an impersonation since the email
> > contact address is different than the "real" J Ford, so there is no
> > intent to deceive. Additionally one does not stand to gain any
> > benefit, monetarily or otherwise, so no harm no foul?
> >
> > However I would wonder if one could be sued for libel by accusing the
> > impersonator of being someone else with no proof in hand.
> >
> > Ahhh such is the need for the legal profession . . .
> >
> > GS
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> > > IDAHO STATUTES
> > > TITLE 18
> > > CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
> > > CHAPTER 30
> > > FALSE PERSONATION
> > >
> > > 18-3001. FALSE PERSONATION. Every person who falsely personates
> > > another, and in such assumed character, either:
> > >
> > > 1. Becomes bail or surety for any party in any proceeding whatever,
> > > before any court or officer authorized to take such bail or surety; or
> > >
> > > 2. Verifies, publishes, acknowledges or proves in the name of another
> > > person, any written instrument, with the intent that the same may be
> > > recorded, delivered and used as true; or
> > >
> > > 3. Does any act whereby, if it were done by the person falsely
> > > personated, he might in any event, become liable to any suit or
> > > prosecution, or to pay any sum of money, or to incur any charge,
> > > forfeiture or penalty, or whereby any benefit might accrue to the party
> > > personating, or to any other person;
> > >that were probably collected solely because they supported the current view, while an untold number of others that might have contradicted that have been lost to history.
> > > Is punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding two (2)
> > > years, or by a fine not exceeding $5000.
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Hmmm.
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Paul --
> > >>
> > >> This is No Weatherman continuing Christ Church's ongoing, unhinged
> > > campaign
> > >> of harassment against J Ford, one of the church's former members.
> > Unlike
> > > NW> ,
> > >> who was fun to tear into, this is unpleasant, potentially defamation,
> > and
> > >> best ignored.
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, the difference inthe way they treat male and female
> > > ex-member> s
> > >> is remarkable.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > > ACS
> > >
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