[Vision2020] E-mail scam

Wed Nov 5 18:49:20 PST 2008

I replied to the sender with this:

I'm questioning the validity of this E-mail but you can watch all Barack's speeches here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=obama+speech&search_type=&aq=2&oq=obama

I saw Maya Angelou recite her poem "I Rise" on The Today show which about brought tears to my eyes.  I remember seeing her recite the same poem probably 20 years ago, too.

It's available to view here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik4bnjUCTbE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqOqo50LSZ0

You will need Adobe Flashplayer to view videos on Youtube but most computers already have it installed for many websites with video; otherwise, it's available free and directly from the source at www.Adobe.com

How have you guys been?

> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 71> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:42 -0800> > Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> vision2020 at moscow.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vision2020-request at moscow.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Failure to blow election stuns Democrats (Carl Westberg)> 2. Say What? (Tom Hansen)> 3. Re: Another E-mail scam/Adobe Flashplayer (donald edwards)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:02:08 -0800> From: Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com>> Subject: [Vision2020] Failure to blow election stuns Democrats> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <BAY116-W19A8F7D79117B4D82C1515E91E0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From Andy Borowitz and the Borowitz Report.....Carl Westberg Jr. > > Just minutes after> their party's longstanding losing tradition lay in tatters on the> ground, millions of shell-shocked Democrats stared at their television> screens in disbelief, asking themselves what went right.> > > For Democrats, who have become accustomed to their party blowing> an election even when it seemed like a sure thing, Tuesday night's> results were a bitter pill to swallow.> > > The head-shaking and finger-pointing over the demise of the> Democrats' losing streak, which many of the party faithful had worn> like a badge of honor, reached all the way to the upper echelons of the> Democratic National Committee.> > > "Believe me, I'm as shocked by these results as anybody," said> DNC chief Howard Dean, who indicated he has received hundreds of calls> from incredulous party members. "We did everything in our power to> screw this thing up."> > > Dean pointed to several key elements the Democrats put in place> to ensure defeat, ranging from "a rancorous primary campaign" to "the> appointment of me."> > > "Somehow, despite our best efforts to snatch defeat from the> jaws of victory, we won," he said. "I came in here with a mandate to> blow this thing and I didn't get it done."> > > Carol Foyler, a lifelong Democrat who owns a loom supply store> in Portland, Maine, said she has been "nearly catatonic" since the> election results were announced.> > > "For the past eight years, I've fixed myself some herbal tea,> turned on NPR, and ranted about the Republicans," she said. "All that> has been taken from me."> > > Elsewhere, Sen. John McCain offered this comment on Sen. Barack> Obama's victory: "My friends, I've got him just where I want him." > > > _________________________________________________________________> Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081105/414b3ab4/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 01:46:48 GMT> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>> Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Message-ID: <200811060146.mA61ksXK081352 at mail-gw.fsr.net>> > >From Newsweek, concerning Sarah Palin's shopping spree, at:> > http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581> > -----------------------------------------------> > The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought > reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more > than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy > clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been > lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla > hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth > will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.> > -----------------------------------------------> > Seeya round town, Moscow.> > Tom Hansen> Moscow, Idaho> > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college > students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."> > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)> > > ---------------------------------------------> This message was sent by First Step Internet.> http://www.fsr.com/> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:47 -0800> From: donald edwards <donaledwards at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another E-mail scam/Adobe Flashplayer> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <BAY142-W55F0A160A0D46C99FC52DCD51E0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"> > > Hello, was just wondering if anyone else has received an e-mail like this one below and if the more computer savvy on the list can determine if this is just the B.S. scare tactic that I think it is but too new for Snopes.com? > > Thanks, Don> > Hey, our office recvd this message from a reliable source, just wanted to share with you all. See text below.> > > At least one email as described below has gotten through the State?s email filters today and to a state employee?s computer. Please delete this dangerous e-mail ? both at work and at home. > Yesterday's election acceptance speech by President-Elect Obama is already being used by cyber criminals to commit fraud. The spam email with supposed links to the speech points to five separate website domains, each registered yesterday in China. Visiting any of the websites requires the user to install an "Adobe Flash Player" in order to watch the speech. The program offered however is actually a "keystroke logger". Installing it will cause all userids and passwords, whether for online banking, online stores, email, or even chat programs, to be sent to the criminals computer. Other malicious software may be loaded as this scam email continues to propagate.> > Once again, if you receive this or any spam delete it immediately and do not forward to the Helpdesk.> > > IT Security> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 70> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:48:11 -0800> > Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> vision2020 at moscow.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vision2020-request at moscow.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: (no subject) (Tom Hansen)> 2. Re: Yay! Sali Defeated! Was: UnofficialIdaho Election Results> (Tom Hansen)> 3. MPC lays off another 210 employees, effective 5 Nov 2008> (Kenneth Marcy)> 4. Cd'A Jail Fails & Half-cent Sales Tax For It, Too (Kenneth Marcy)> 5. Worthy Cause at the One World Cafe today> (Bruce and Jean Livingston)>!> 6. Mr. Ayers?s Neighborhood (Chasuk)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:52:36 GMT> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)> To: <suehovey at moscow.com>, <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>,> <lfalen at turbonet.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <200811052152.mA5Lqe0J008217 at mail-gw.fsr.net>> > Sue -> > I was of the impression that Eisenhower appointed Warren to the Supreme > Court to ensure that the court remained strongly conservative. Realizing > that Warren, during WW2, was in favor of Japanese internment camps, > Eisenhower felt that Warren was the perfect conservative choice.> > I also felt that, perhaps, Brown vs. Board of Education was an opportunity > for Warren to "make amends" for his alleged anti Japanese-American > sentiment during the war as a result of his support for the internment > camps.> > Could this have simply been confusion on my part?> > To!> m Hansen> Moscow, Idaho> > > The twist that is most memorable to me is when Eisenhower made Earl> > Warren chief justice to keep him from running for Prez, and it was the> > Warren court that came in with the unanimous decision in the 1954, Brown> > v The Board of Education of Topeka--possibly the most significant> > education decision of our times. > > > > Sue H. > > > ---------------------------------------------> This message was sent by First Step Internet.> http://www.fsr.com/> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:13:53 -0800> From: Tom Hansen <idahotom at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Yay! Sali Defeated! Was: UnofficialIdaho> Election Results> To: <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>, Wayne Fox <deco at moscow.com>, Vision> 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <BAY134-W50471DDBBDD4E49806904DD21F0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > As Scott (last name unknown) stated:> > "Like hard core right wing talk radio - that's what makes it [Courtney's local blight-mind blahg] enter!> taining."> > Exactly, Scott. > > How else are we to know of . . .> > Obama's strong Muslim ties (religious relationships obviously acquired shortly after his birth in Kenya).> > Nurturing a strongly growing anti-American sentiment at the church of Pastor Wright.> > Being mentored by domestic terrorists like Bill Ayers.> > Obama's endorsement from Fidel Castro.> > Note: Obama openly admits that he fathered two black children in wedlock.> > The HORRORS!> > Tom Hansen> Moscow, Idaho> > > > > From: scooterd408 at hotmail.comTo: deco at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.comDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:45:31 -0700Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Yay! Sali Defeated! Was: UnofficialIdaho Election Results> > Like hard core right wing talk radio - that's what makes it entertaining.-Scott> > > > From: deco at moscow.comTo: vision2020 at moscow.comDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:48:24 -0800Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Yay! Sali Defeated! Was: UnofficialIdaho Election Results> > > Courtney's blogs occupy the fringe of Crac!> kpotland.> > W.> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081105/03ccbe0b/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:44:48 -0800> From: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at verizon.net>> Subject: [Vision2020] MPC lays off another 210 employees, effective 5> Nov 2008> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Message-ID: <200811051444.48450.kmmos1 at verizon.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > > http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/561482.html> > November 05, 2008> > MPC lays off another 210 employees, effective Wednesday> > MPC Corp. has laid off another 210 employees from its Nampa facility, > effective today, said Bob Fick, an Idaho Department of Labor spokesman.> > The company filed a special notice with the state in advance those employees > seeking unemployment insurance payments.> > According to David Kojima, a systems administrator at MPC for 13 years, there > was no severance pay.> > ?We were p!> aid for time worked and half our holiday pay,? he said. He said some > IT workers were retained and estimated 100 employees still work at MPC.> > Workers were given the news at a meeting Wednesday morning, and escorted out > immediately after. Kojima and other laid-off workers met at the Woodshed Bar > and Grill at 817 E Karcher Road in Nampa, for what sounded very much like a > party.> > According to some the news comes as a relief after weeks of dealing with very > angry customers.> > "People have been calling for weeks, and we couldn't do anything for the last > 3-4 weeks. We've been getting yelled at instead of solving problems," said > Ryan Mason. "Some of the supervisors were understanding and let us take > breaks between calls so we weren?t just getting screamed at for eight > straight hours."> > Mason worked for MPC for five years. He says he thinks some of the workers > will qualify for federal training money and he is hoping to take advantage of > that.> > This is!> the second time Sue Harris has been laid off recently. She started > work at MPC in January after being cut at Zilog.> > Harris said she saw employees from every department from sales to production > leave with their belongings in tow.> > ?I imagine I?ll go to the Labor Department next week,? she said. ?I just hope > I don?t have to put up a for sale sign on my house.?> > On Wednesday the Labor Department announced that it would extend unemployment > office hours through Dec. 18 in Boise, Meridian and Caldwell.> > ?The department has a wide array of programs and services to help these > workers collect the benefit checks they are eligible for and find new jobs > that will get them back to work. But with the number of people needing > assistance increasing so rapidly, the normal workday just isn?t long enough,? > Department of Labor Director Roger B. Madsen said.> > The offices will remain open until 6 p.m. Monday through Thursday. The normal > closing time is 5 p.m.> > Earlier this week, the MPC disclosed that contract manufacturer Flextronic!> s > Computing in Juarez, Mexico will no longer do work for MPC because the > company had failed to "meet our obligations."> > MPC announced Oct. 16 that it had laid off 200 workers at its plants in Nampa > and North Sioux City, S.D.> > The company has also been notified by the NYSE Alternext - formerly the > American Stock Exchange - that the exchange intends to remove MPC's stock by > filing a delisting application with federal securities regulators.> > The company has lost nearly $31.5 million in the past three quarters. A > spokesman said Friday that MPC is in a "critical situation."> > Calls to the company have not been returned.> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:10:32 -0800> From: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at verizon.net>> Subject: [Vision2020] Cd'A Jail Fails & Half-cent Sales Tax For It,> Too> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Message-ID: <200811051510.32659.kmmos1 at verizon.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > > http://www.cd!> apress.com/articles/2008/11/05/news/news02.txt> > COEUR d'ALENE -- Voters slammed the door on the county's jail > expansion/comprehensive facilities plan Tuesday, voting against $145 million > in bonding authorization and the accompanying half-cent sales tax increase.> > Both fell well short of the super majority needed to pass with 37,957 votes > (64.1 percent) against the bond question to 21,260 votes (35.9 percent) in > favor. For the sales tax quesion, 37,405 (61.5 percent) voted against and > 23,412 (38.5 percent) voted in favor.> > Commissioner Todd Tondee said Tuesday night that the problem of an overcrowded > jail isn't going away.> > "We're going to have to do something. We'll reevaluate and see," Tondee > said. "It's a disappointment, but we'll deal with it."> > The $145 million would have built between nine and 12 new buildings, two > multi-level parking structures and various expansions to existing facilities > both at the sheriff's current headquarters and the downtown courthouse > campus.> > The state law that allows for half the!> money collected each year from a sales > tax to pay off a jail and the other half to go toward property-tax relief is > set to expire Dec. 31, 2009.> > Newly re-elected Sheriff Rocky Watson said he was not sure if his department > would push for another jail expansion/facilities plan before the local-option > sales tax law expires.> > "That is completely up to the commissioners. That is their responsibility," > Watson said. "The failure is not a surprise. The degree of the failure is > disappointing after you give 100 presentations and open houses."> > Watson said the plan was a "complex issue" that should have had more time than > 90 days in the public eye and deserved the support of all the commissioners. > Commissioner Rick Currie did not support the plan.> > "They've got to do something. The jail is overcrowded and it's a huge > expense," Watson said.> > The last time the county asked voters to approve a jail expansion was in 2005, > when it fell short of the required !> super majority by 300 votes. That plan had > a $50 million price tag.> > Tondee said they will look at all options including tapping into the general > fund -- property taxes -- to pay for a jail expansion. The half-cent sales > tax would have paid for the debt service on the bonds and kept the project > property tax neutral.> > "I don't know if (spending more time explaining the plan to the public) would > have changed anything. Looking back, I'm not disappointed in anything we have > done," Tondee said. "I think it's tough economic times and people were just > not interested in it."> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:25:28 -0800> From: "Bruce and Jean Livingston" <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>> Subject: [Vision2020] Worthy Cause at the One World Cafe today> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <019801c93fa6$2c97b2b0$64e8a8c0 at fd.org>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";> reply-type=original> > forwarded to the Viz at the request of Brandy Sullivan. Unfortunately, I > h!> ave been very busy today, and this is quite late, but here it is...> > Bruce Livingston> >> > ANNOUNCEMENT:> >> > On November 5th, One World Cafe in Moscow is celebrating commUNITY and a> > belief in the power of CHANGE by providing free coffee drinks in exchange> > for donations of ?change? to the University of Idaho?s Operation Education> > program.> >> > Operation Education is a pioneering educational scholarship program> > designed to help veterans who were wounded as a result of their service> > since 9/11/2001. Visit One World Caf? on the corner of Main and Sixth> > streets between 6:30am to 11:000pm on November 5th and receive a free> > coffee drink for a donation of any kind to Operation Education.> >> >> > Bring your change jars or just the change in your pocket!!> >> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:48:15 -0800> From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>> Subject: [Vision2020] Mr. Ayers?s Neighborhood> To: Vision2020 <vision2020@!> moscow.com>> Message-ID:> <ef6f41de0811051648x2712e4d7v1d82de3e72fc3b8c at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252> > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/tny/2008/11/mr-ayerss-neighborhood.html> > November 4, 2008> > Early this morning, the Obama family voted at the Beulah Shoesmith> Elementary School, in Hyde Park. Long after they had gone, the lawn in> front of the school was filled with reporters, mostly Europeans,> filming voters. While I was talking to an eight-year-old kid dressed> as George Washington, my colleague Peter Slevin, of the Washington> Post was across the street, knocking on the door of someone else who> had voted at the Shoesmith School this morning: William Ayers.> > Ayers has avoided reporters ever since he became an election talking> point, scratch pole, and general sensation. But now he answered the> door of his three-story row house, and I joined the discussion. Ayers> is sixty-four and has earrings in both ears. He wore jeans and a Riley> T-shirt?Riley the kid from "Boondocks." The day was fall-!> bright and> 50th Street was filled with fallen gold leaves. Ayers waved to> neighbors and kids as they went by on the sidewalk. He was, for the> first time in a long while, in an expansive mood, making clear that,> in all the months his name has been at the forefront of the campaign,> he and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn?ex-leaders of the Weather> Underground and longtime educators and activists in the community?have> been watching a lot of cable television, not least Fox.> > One night, Ayers recalled, he and Dohrn were watching Bill O'Reilly,> who was going on about "discovering" Ayers's 1974 manifesto, "Prairie> Fire." "I had to laugh," Ayers said. "No one read it when it was first> issued!" He said that he laughed, too, when he listened to Sarah> Palin's descriptions of Obama "palling around with terrorists." In> fact, Ayers said that he knew Obama only slightly: "I think my> relationship with Obama was probably like that of thousands of others> in Chicago and, like million!> s and millions of others, I wished I knew> him better."> > Ayers said that while he hasn't been bothered by the many threats?"and> I'm not complaining"?the calls and e-mails he has received have been> "pretty intense." "I got two threats in one day on the Internet," he> said, referring to an incident that took place last summer when he was> sitting in his office at the University of Illinois-Chicago, where he> has taught education for two decades. "The first one said there was a> posse coming to shoot me, and the second said they were going to> kidnap me and water-board me. This friend of mine, a university cop,> said, 'Gosh, I hope the guy who's coming to shoot you gets here> first.'"> > Ayers seemed curiously calm and cheerful about the way he had been> made an issue in the campaign. He seemed unbothered to have been part> of what he called "the Swiftboating" process of the 2008 campaign.> > "It's all guilt by association," Ayers said. "They made me into a> cartoon character?they threw me up onstage just to pummel me. I felt> from the beginn!> ing that the Obama campaign had to run the Obama> campaign and I have to run my life." Ayers said that once his name> became part of the campaign maelstrom he never had any contact with> the Obama circle. "That's not my world," he said.> > As the polling day drew into the late afternoon, the level of security> in Hyde Park matched the level of anticipation. Obama's house, four> blocks away, was surrounded.> > Ayers said he felt "a lot of sympathy" for the Reverend Jeremiah> Wright, "who was treated grotesquely and unfairly" by the media. He> said that Martin Luther King Jr. was, in his time, far more radical> than Wright: "Wright's a wimp compared to Martin Luther King?he had a> fiercer tone." Ayers was referring to the speeches King gave late in> his life in opposition to the Vietnam War and on the subject of> economic equality. "Martin Luther King was not a saint," Ayers said.> "He was an angry pilgrim." Ayers said that he had commiserated> recently with yet another forme!> r Hyde Park neighbor (and fellow Little> League coach), the Palestinian-American scholar Rashid Khalidi, now at> Columbia University, who has also been a punching bag of the right> wing in recent weeks.> > Across the street, neighborhood kids chanted "O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma!" and> "Yes we can!" for the cameras. Ayers smiled, looking a little like a> more boomer Fred MacMurray in an episode of "My Three Sons."> > Ayers said that he had never meant to imply, in an interview with the> Times, published coincidentally on 9/11, that he somehow wished he and> the Weathermen had committed further acts of violence in the old days.> Instead, he said, "I wish I had done more, but it doesn't mean I wish> we'd bombed more shit." Ayers said that he had never been responsible> for violence against other people and was acting to end a war in> Vietnam in which "thousands of people were being killed every week."> > "While we did claim several extreme acts, they were acts of extreme> radicalism against property," he said. "We killed no one and hurt no> one. Three of o!> ur people killed themselves." And yet he was not> without regrets. He mocked one of his earlier books, co-written with> Dohrn, saying that, while it still is reflective of his radical and> activist politics today, he was guilty of "rhetoric that's juvenile> and inflated?it is what it is."> > "I wish I had been wiser," Ayers said. "I wish I had been more> effective, I wish I'd been more unifying, I wish I'd been more> principled."> > Ayers said that his life hasn't been much altered by recent months,> though he decided to postpone the re-release of his memoir, "Fugitive> Days"?"I didn't want it to be put in the meat grinder of this moment."> Two books he co-edited will also be republished soon: "City Kids, City> Schools" and "City Kids, City Teachers."> > It was late afternoon, and Ayers was talking about his plans for the> evening: he was heading to Grant Park with some friends for what they> assumed would be a mass victory party. "This is an achingly exciting> moment," he !> said.> > As we were getting ready to go, after an hour of front-stoop> conversation, a neighbor came by and ironically reminded Ayers of the> event that he and his wife held for Obama in 1995 when Obama was> making his run for the Illinois state senate. "Everyone, including> you, wants to have a coffee here," he joked to the neighbor. "I don't> know what the fuck I'm going to do!"> > > > ------------------------------> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> > End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 70> ******************************************> _________________________________________________________________> You live life beyond your PC. 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