[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 29 17:37:34 PDT 2008
Paul,
You wrote:
"Oh, for Petes sake does Donovan have to exaggerate everything?!?!
I have a friend without health insurance who had to see a local doctor in January. She was charged $95 for the office visit, which is less than three times the amount Donovan wants us to believe."
I bet you $327, my last doctor's visit was more then $95, as you think it is. One guess as to why I am betting $327.
Ellen writes;
"The $35.00 per doctor visit is nothing. What really scares the crap out of me is the $5000 yearly deductable I'm forced to have in order to afford any insurance at all. Without that high a deductable,"
You only pay $35 if you have insurance. This is because insurance companies arrange with medical offices to overbill people without insurance coverage. It allows both of them to charge more money for their services.
Ellen, I am happy you can get insurance.
Best Regards,
Donovan
Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com> wrote:
.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } The $35.00 per doctor visit is nothing. What really scares the crap out of me is the $5000 yearly deductable I'm forced to have in order to afford any insurance at all. Without that high a deductable, I would have to pay over $450 per month in premiums. After my so-called retirement I had to do some shopping around to find an affordable plan. . . . and right now I feel like so many other Americans. . . I'm just gambling that I stay healthy.
Ellen A. Roskovich
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:13:18 -0700
From: sslund_2007 at verizon.net
To: godshatter at yahoo.com; thansen at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die
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I cannot afford $300 an office visit.
Oh, for Petes sake does Donovan have to exaggerate everything?!?!
I have a friend without health insurance who had to see a local doctor in January. She was charged $95 for the office visit, which is less than three times the amount Donovan wants us to believe.
Now, I think $95 is pretty darn high, but thats not the topic.
Perhaps Donovan could have made his point without the gross exaggeration, but he chose not to, which only hurts his credibility.
BTW, we have health insurance, and due to the erosion in benefits caused by the free market of the unfettered insurance industry, we pay a heck of a lot more than $25 for a local office visit.
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.
~ Edmund Burke
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:57 AM
To: Paul Rumelhart; Tom Hansen
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; Donovan Arnold
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die
Paul,
I don't know where you get your information, but the government doesn't pay for my medical care. I don't get any medical care. I cannot afford $300 an office visit. Just isn't in my budget.
Now a person with insurance only pays $25 an office visit. I could afford the $25, but not the $300.
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