[Vision2020] Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die

[Donovan Arnold]

Keely,
   
  I don't need to see the impacts of not having insurance, I experience it. I don't need a government study to tell me that not having medical care causes poor health. That is a no brainer.
   
  What we need are either no government subsidies for doctors and hospitals that charge $300 an hour, or we need tighter regulation of how much a doctor can charge when he/she is working in a tax supported building who got their degree on a tax supported education. 
   
  No reasonable person honestly thinks he or she is worth $300 an hour. That is ridiculous. Nobody can afford that unless you are rich.
   
  Health insurance companies discriminate extensively, limit coverage more extensively, and charge far more than the below average income person can afford. 
   
  The other problem with health insurance companies is that they charge monthly, and poor people cannot always afford to pay each month. 
   
  But I say, what is the point of getting insurance, it doesn't cover anything most people need. I just cannot get health insurance for anything I really need. 
   
  We would be better off banning health insurance for everyone, then trying to get everyone to have it. Then Doctors and Hospitals would be forced to charge reasonable rates that an open and free market could afford,  or have zero clients trying to charge $6000 a visit. It is only because the government has legalized exploitation of the people that Hospitals and Doctors can exploit people that are sick, injured, or in need or care. And I won't even get into the Health Insurance Companies, or the pharmaceutical companies that seem to invent illnesses to sell their legalized drug pushing. 
   
  Now what they do is charge is $4000 an hour and come down on the price for those that have health insurance, even less is they have medicaid or medicare.
   
  Hospitals destroy poor people everyday financially because those without health insurance cannot afford the higher rates that Hospitals and Doctors charge people that cannot afford health coverage. I think it highly immoral to charge the poor that cannot afford health insurance a higher rate than then wealthier people that can afford health insurance for the EXACT same service. And I cannot see why Liberals in Moscow support that policy, that even Gritman holds.
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Donovan
   
  

keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Goodness, "Donovan," you sound more and more like a Courtney-ite Libertarian every day.  

I'm sorry that you fail to see that while all of us die, the poor among us die earlier of things that generally don't kill the rich among us.  I don't know what's more pitiful -- that you can't see that, or that you don't give a damn.

Keely




    
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  Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:05:07 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: nickgier at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die

  Interesting study because I always thought we all had an equal chance of dying, 100%.
   
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Donovan

nickgier at adelphia.net wrote:
  Families USA Study Shows How Many Die Because They Lack Health Insurance - 03/26/08, Workers Independent News

A first-ever report breaks down the death rate of the uninsured state-by-state, and finds that the uninsured are more likely to die sooner than the insured. Jesse Russell reports:

Families USA has finished the first-ever study breaking down state by state how many die every year due to a lack of health insurance. So far the organization has completed studies in 13 of the 50 states, and on Tuesday held a conference call regarding the results in Wisconsin. According to Families USA, 10.7 percent of those between the ages of 25 and 64 living in Wisconsin are uninsured and they estimate that approximately 250 Wisconsinites died in 2006 due to being uninsured. Dr. Barbara Horner-Ibler, medical director at the Bread of Healing Clinic in Milwaukee said that it isn’t just a problem of the uninsured, but also of insurance holders with deductibles that are too high:

[Horner-Ibler]: "We also have the issue now of not just the uninsured, but patients who have high deductible plans who are delaying care because they do not have access and the access that they do have is much too expensive for them to be able to afford on their budget."

According to the study, which covered 30 years of statistics, uninsured adults are more than three times as likely to delay seeking medical care and are 25 percent more likely to die prematurely than adults with health insurance.


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