[Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
g. crabtree
jampot at roadrunner.com
Fri Mar 21 07:15:21 PDT 2008
A quick review of the Rutgers team roster and a glance at the transcript of the 4 April, 07 Imus in the morning program reveal "facts" 1 and 2 to be incorrect. Sorry.
"Fact" 3 does nothing to support Wrights ludicrous assertion that AIDS is a racially targeted WMD, and "fact" 4 does not address the double standard.
0 for 4 Thanks for playing!
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Donovan Arnold
To: g. crabtree ; keely emerinemix ; Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
OK G, I will play your game.
Fact Check:
"Imus directed his remarks toward a NCAA Big East women's basket ball team, Rutgers. Not a high school. Not minors."
FACT: There was at least one girl on the team that was 17 years old. A minor according to most state laws.
"Imus used the plural when referring to the team as "hoes." He did not single anyone out."
FACT: Imus was talking about them for quiet a while before stating his finally reprehensible statement, and did point some of them out individually. But in either case, I don't think it makes him anymore right.
"Wright made statements he claimed were fact but which were, in reality, silly racist nonsense. (America invented AIDS/HIV as a means of genocide against blacks as an example)"
It is a pretty well established fact that Whites experimented on Africans during the early and mid twentieth century. It is also fact that the Reagan administration did little to nothing to slow the spread of AIDS when it could have done something meaningful. Regardless of intent, the US did let many Blacks suffer from AIDS and die when they could have spent resources to research and prevent its spread.
"BHO condemns Imus and believes he should have been thrown off the air for his single ill considered and oft apologized for remark while giving Wright his and his family's undivided attention, his endorsement, and $20,000.00 over the last twenty years. Hero worship is one thing but, how can you not smell at least a hint of a double standard?"
FACT: WRIGHT is a veteran, served in the US Marines, organizes charity events for the poor, raises money for the poor, brings people to Christ, provides services to people in need of food, clothing, shelter, and other needed services. Wright endured discrimination, segregation, violence against him for being Black by Whites his entire life, and witnessed it happen daily to the people he loves and cares about.
Imus sits behind a microphone insulting people all day, everyday.
Best Regards,
Donovan
"g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
D,
Since you want to debate the minor points of my post and, as you made clear in your earlier post to Ms. Kraut, facts are of supreme importance please be advised:
Imus directed his remarks toward a NCAA Big East women's basket ball team, Rutgers. Not a high school. Not minors.
Imus used the plural when referring to the team as "hoes." He did not single anyone out.
Wright made statements he claimed were fact but which were, in reality, silly racist nonsense. (America invented AIDS/HIV as a means of genocide against blacks as an example)
BHO condemns Imus and believes he should have been thrown off the air for his single ill considered and oft apologized for remark while giving Wright his and his family's undivided attention, his endorsement, and $20,000.00 over the last twenty years. Hero worship is one thing but, how can you not smell at least a hint of a double standard?
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Donovan Arnold
To: g. crabtree ; keely emerinemix ; Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
Gary,
I disagree. Don Imus attacked a high school girl for her hair and called her a hoe for doing nothing but being a good student and a good athlete.
Wright made political statements about the country, some fact, some opinion. He did not attack people for their individual traits as a person. Nor did he attack minors in high school for their racial attributes.
Best Regards,
Donovan
"g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
So how do you square what BHO had to say about Don Imus when he made an ill considered remark in jest about a women's basketball team and the bye he gives his pastor and friend of two decades when he makes statements, represented as fact, that were far worse over a much greater period of time? The only conclusion I can come to is that your candidate for sainthood has a huge double standard when it comes to racism and free speech. Specifically, it's OK for him and his but not so much for the melanin impoverished. You might want to put the halo on hold, your hero has clay clodhoppers.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: keely emerinemix
To: Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
I have never in my life been so proud of someone in public office before. It was, for me, a church experience: Truth spoken prophetically, without adornment, cowardice, or guile. I believe it will be viewed with the historical and social significance of JFK's "ask not" speech. Obama demonstrated a presence that I have not seen in 30 years as a voter, but that well embodied the spirit of Lucretia Mott, Mary McLeod Bethune, Frederick Douglass, Wm. Lloyd Garrison, and George Fox. Saints and heroes, all.
OK, Dale -- pile on.
Keely
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