[Vision2020] Contractors

Tue Jan 29 17:46:18 PST 2008

I'm sorry you assume I don't care . . . I tend not to lie about things like that.

Keely

> To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> From: pkraut at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:49:14 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Contractors
> 
> I am going to respond...not that I believe you really care but I do care 
> about our young people and what they are learning.
> Yes, I like the idea of 'chain gang' labor. Too many of our young people 
> are left with the idea that the system will take care of them and they 
> are left with no work ethic. They didn't learn it at home and they are 
> not getting it from a system that is afraid of being sued by someone who 
> got their feelings hurt by having to actually work. They are sent into 
> the world seeking all the help with no idea how to just do it themselves. 
> The bible sayes that those who won't work don't eat and I think in our 
> efforts to give we forget that they need to know how to work. On the 
> other hand 'if you don't have the time, don't do the crime'!
> 
> 
> > 
> > Pat, would you prefer that we "do things like that" again, somehow, if 
> it
> m> eans causing harm to young people?  
> > You seem angry that care and concern are shown to vulnerable people, 
> and I
> > know you're a Christian.  How does that work in you?  I'm not trying to
> sla> m you.  I'm trying to understand you.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Keely
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> > > From: pkraut at moscow.com
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:07:44 +0000
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Contractors
> > > 
> > > You cannot do that to the poor darlings on probation. You'll hurt 
> their 
> > > feelings and we are not allowed to do things like that anymore. 
> > > 
> > > > In Couer d' Alene, if the walks aren't cleared by 9:00 am, and kept 
> > > clear,
> > > > the city will do it, and fine the property owner $100.00. If the 
> fine 
> > > isn't
> > > > paid, it is attached as a lien on their property.
> > > > 
> > > > Put the kids on probation to work. It is a tangible way to know 
> they 
> > > have
> > > > completed the job. If the snow hasn't been removed, the job isn't 
> done.
> > > > 
> > > > I respectfully disagree with you, Matt. The buck stops with the 
> owner 
> > > of the
> > > > property. Why should I get injured due to the neglance of a 
> property 
> > > owner?
> > > > Taking care of the sidewalks is part of the responsibility of being 
> a
> > > > property owner.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, Matt, I appreciate your gracious offer to shovel my walks 
> last 
> > > week...
> > > > *smile* I don't have any sidewalks, other than a short three foot
> walk>  
> > > to
> > > > the gravel alley.
> > > > 
> > > > Janesta
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 1/28/08, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think going down this road can lead to a whole new can of worms.
> If>  
> > > we
> > > > > start doing contractor work for snow, then whats next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I can start billing the city for plowing my street.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe if the people in town need help with the sidewalks, 
> just 
> > > ask.
> > > > > Many out there will help. No need to fine people who in most 
> cases 
> > > can't do
> > > > > it or are out of town.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 cents
> > > > > Matt
> > > > >
> > > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > > From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
> > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:39:08 -0800
> > > > > Subject: [Vision2020] Contractors
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this won't solve the issue today, but has the City or 
> County 
> > > ever
> > > > > thought about having contractors on retainer, so that if a 
> problem 
> > > area
> > > > > sidewalk owner/responsible party refuses to or is slow to clean 
> it 
> > > off, the
> > > > > contractor is brought in to do the cleaning off and then the
> > > > > owner/responsible party is fined for the work done?  If there 
> isn't 
> > > anything
> > > > > like that now on the books, is there a possibility to consider it
> in>  
> > > the
> > > > > future, like for next year?
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments????
> > > > >
> > > > > J :]
> > > > >
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