[Vision2020] Black History Month

Sat Jan 19 12:05:41 PST 2008

Tom,

So much for your bet with D. Seems to be that Donovan has cleaned up his act for the most part. You on the other hand continue your bashes against all that isn't liberal. 

Matt

From: thansen at moscow.com
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; jampot at roadrunner.com; godshatter at yahoo.com; lfalen at turbonet.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:40:48 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Black History Month

Keely –

I believe what g is suggesting is that
this is a question of cultures.

In most cultures people obey the laws that
apply to everybody within that culture.  In the absence of a law, people in
this culture will generally do what is right (providing for the greater good). 
Most people in this culture do not shy away from responsibility for their
actions.  Most people in this culture offer a helping hand instead of a clinched
fist.

Then there is g’s culture, the culture
based on situational ethics, where “right” is determined by “Who is involved
and do I like them”, “What is involved and does it benefit me”, “Why I should
not be held accountable for anything I do or say”, “How, if actually
confronted, it is somebody else’s fault”, and if all else fails “Why is
everybody always picking on me”.

In the former culture people look out for
themselves and each other.  Caring and sharing is part of the daily routine. 
And the parties are GREAT!

In g’s culture, the greater good is
pronounced “ME FIRST and ALWAYS”.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

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From: keely emerinemix
[mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com] 

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008
11:06 AM

To: g. crabtree; Paul Rumelhart;
lfalen; Matt Decker; J Ford; Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com

Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Black
History Month

I'm far more concerned about the
violence done to and the oppression suffered by indigenous peoples than by the
fact that it didn't violate any established legal code.  Most decent
people don't have to review federal or municipal law to determine that certain
actions are wrong, particularly when those actions are done in the name of God.

Keely

> From: jampot at roadrunner.com

> To: godshatter at yahoo.com; lfalen at turbonet.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com;
privatejf32 at hotmail.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:08:58 -0800

> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Black History Month

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> Not to put too sharp a point on things but, for something to have been 

> illegal there would have had to have been a law against it in the first 

> place. There was not. When Europeans arrived and commenced to settling
this 

> country the indigs had no written language or concept of property much
less 

> of sovereign country. To have asked for a by your leave would have been 

> similar to asking herring for permission to swim in their ocean. To make
the 

> claim that we came here illegally is insupportable.

> 

> g

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>

> To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>; "Matt
Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>; 

> "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>; "Tom Hansen"
<thansen at moscow.com>; 

> <vision2020 at moscow.com>

> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:22 PM

> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Black History Month

> 

> 

> When you get right down to it, you could say that this

> nation was founded on the backs of illegal immigrants.

> Unless the colonists applied for VISAs from the

> natives, they were there illegally. To harp about the

> distinction now seems hypocritical.

> 

> I'm not a big fan of having these PC "Months", mainly

> because of the reasons stated. Why single out one

> group? It becomes a contest to see which one has the

> most political clout at any one time. I like the idea

> of an "American History Month", one devoted to all

> aspects of American History.

> 

> Paul

> 

> --- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:

> 

> > Good point Matt

> >

> > Roger

> > -----Original message-----

> > From: Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com

> > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:12:12 -0800

> > To: J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com, Tom Hansen

> > thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com

> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Black History Month

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> > > I agree. We should acknowledge all who have made

> > this a great country. We not only should have a

> > Native American history month, but also Irish

> > > American, Chinese American, Italian American,

> > Japanese American, Arab American, German American,

> > Mexican American, Italian American, and months for

> > all the races that have brought this nation to what

> > it is.

> > >

> > > Or we could role it all into one big fun month. We

> > could call it American history month. One that

> > strives to acknowledge all races and what they have

> > done to make the United
  States the best place to

> > live. This land was built on legal immigrants, all

> > of which should be recognized.

> > >

> > > Matt

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> > > From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com

> > > To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

> > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:03:26 -0800

> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Black History Month

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> > > Thank you! Just what I was trying to say - Black

> > History Month gets the publicity and the other

> > "minorities" just get a one-time notice and then

> > forgotten. Since this is a MAJOR part of our

> > population as well as a main group of our

> > developments, this is just sad!

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> > > J :]

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> > > From: thansen at moscow.com

> > > To: gussie443 at hotmail.com;

> > privatejf32 at hotmail.com; chasuk at gmail.com;

> > vision2020 at moscow.com

> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Black History Month

> > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:37:42 -0800

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> > > >From the Defense Department website at:

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> http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/nativeamerican01/proclamation.html

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> > > â?oNOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President

> > > of the United
  States of America,

> > > by virtue of the authority vested in me by the

> > Constitution and laws of the United States,

> > > do hereby proclaim November 2001 as National

> > American Indian Heritage Month. I

> > > call upon the people of the United

> > > States to observe this month with

> > > appropriate programs and activities.â?�

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> > > Although the verbiage of this proclamation

> > > does establish a National American Indian Heritage

> > Month, it appears to only do

> > > so for the year 2001.

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> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.

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> > > Tom Hansen

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> > > Moscow, Idaho

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> > > "If not us, who?

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> > > If not now, when?"

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> > > - Unknown

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> > > From:

> > > vision2020-bounces at moscow.com

> > [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of

> > Ellen

> > > Roskovich

> > >

> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008

> > > 11:23 AM

> > >

> > > To: J Ford; Chasuk;

> > > vision2020 at moscow.com

> > >

> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Black

> > > History Month

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> > > Chas

> > > says we've had Native American Indian Heritage

> > Month EVERY year since

> > > 1994. However, this is the first I've heard of

> > it. Of course that

> > > doesn't mean it hasn't happened every November. .

> > . it just means it isn't very

> > > high on people's priorities and that's too bad.

> > You'd think that in the

> > > past 17 years it would get a little publicity in

> > the media. Hopefully

> > > next November someone will remember.

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> > > Ellen A.

> > > Roskovich

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> > > From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com

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> > > To: chasuk at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

> > >

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