[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Iowa caucus stuff

[Tom Hansen]

>From the "Welcoming Idaho Initiative" site at:

http://www.WelcomingIdaho.org

"Welcome to Idaho, the Gem state. People come to Idaho for the opportunities
it offers. Native Americans and immigrants from many nations have called the
state home. Welcoming Idaho seeks to continue our state´s tradition of
'welcoming strangers'. 

Welcoming Idaho seeks to foster dialogues in our communities about our
shared values. We want to stay away from the hate-filled messages on our
airwaves. We do not want fear to rule our lives. We know that Idahoans are
compassionate and accepting. Welcoming Idaho celebrates our differences and
our common values."

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"I was a stranger, and you welcomed me."  (Matthew 25:35)


-----Original Message-----

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of pkraut at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:34 AM
To: Vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Iowa caucus stuff

Oh, thank you....





> Pat,
> 
> You have my permission to live your life any God-damned way you want to.
> 
> Paul
> 
> pkraut at moscow.com wrote:
> > I soooo always apprciate someone who is not a Christian telling me 
how I 
> > should live it!!
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >> What if he was destitute and unable to provide for his family, and 
> >>     
> > broke 
> >   
> >> into your house because your son was hiring him under the table to 
do 
> >> his chores for him?
> >>
> >> I think the un-Christian thing about this (from my admittedly 
> >> non-Christian perspective) is viewing these people as hardened 
> >>     
> > criminals 
> >   
> >> intent on taking our jobs away from us instead of people stuck 
between 
> >>     
> > a 
> >   
> >> rock and a hard place who have to find some way for their family to 
> >>     
> > survive.
> >   
> >> I'm no Bible scholar, but I do remember a lot of talk about poverty 
and 
> >> helping out your fellow man.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> g. crabtree wrote:
> >>     
> >>> It seems to me that your notion of the Gospel with regard to 
illegal 
> >>> aliens is flawed. Do you believe that should a thief break into 
your 
> >>> home it's your obligation to give him a hot meal and pay to have 
the 
> >>> hand he cut breaking your window stitched up? Maybe some dental 
care 
> >>> for him and his family while he's there? Heck as long as he's 
sitting 
> >>> on your sofa why not arrange for a little in state tuition at the 
> >>> local diploma mill and offer to pay expenses not covered by grants. 
> >>>       
> > By 
> >   
> >>> my reckoning it's not Christian charity if my compassion is 
forcibly 
> >>> extracted at the point of a gun, be it in the form of increased 
taxes 
> >>> by the government or an actual felon with a firearm. Charity should 
> >>>       
> > be 
> >   
> >>> an individual thing from the heart. Also, I'm no biblical scholar 
but 
> >>> I'm fairly sure that the Bible does not preclude a sovereign 
country 
> >>> having secure borders.
> >>>  
> >>> g