[Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Feb 26 19:08:39 PST 2008


Ha!  

Those were scary days, indeed.  Somehow ducking under a desk just didn't seem to be enough . . . 

Keely




> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; jampot at roadrunner.com; sbasoa at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:01:44 +0000
> 
> You must admit, though, Keely.
> 
> George Sr. had a great health insurance policy.  You realize, of course, 
> that Dan Quayle was only a heart-beat away from the presidency.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>  
> > 
> > 
> > I'm curious about your previous assertion that FDR was one of the worst
> pre> sidents ever.  Can you tell me why?
> > 
> > I think he was one of the best.  I'm not being snide.  
> > 
> > I maintain Reagan was one of the worst.  Again, not being snide.
> > 
> > I think Jimmy Carter was one of the most decent men to ever be president,
> a> nd proof positive that decent men are often really bad presidents.  With
> no>   trace of snideness -- I'm entirely sincere in this -- I think George 
> W.
> B> ush is neither decent nor a good president.  With acknowledged sarcasm, 
> I
> s> uppose the nicest thing I could say about him is that he would be a good
> ne> xt-door neighbor if I needed a lot of brush cut around my property.
> > 
> > Your turn.
> > 
> > Keely
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> > > To: sbasoa at moscow.com
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:20:30 -0800
> > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > 
> > > Nothing could be farther from the truth. We have had some very good 
> > > presidents. J.F. Kennedy, D.D. Eisenhower, H.S. Truman, C. Coolidge, 
> and
> > A. 
> > > Lincoln for instance. We have also had some truly great presidents as
> wel> l. 
> > > G. Washington, (the best ever bar none) T. Jefferson, J. Madison, and,
> of>  
> > > course,  R. W. Reagan.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps you would be more comfortable with a monarchy?
> > > 
> > > g
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Steven Basoa" <sbasoa at moscow.com>
> > > Cc: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Yeah, and add those 43 other presidents as well...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Roger, You left LBJ off of your worst  presidents list. An 
> inadvertent
> > > > oversight I'm sure. I think that there is also a strong case to be
> > > > made for
> > > > Woodrow Wilson and, despite popular sentiment, FDR.
> > > >
> > > > g
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > > > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:30 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Gary is right on Obama. Keely is wrong on Bush. Bush is far from
> > > >> the best
> > > >> president we have had, but he is far from the worst. The bottom tier
> > > >> consists of Buchcanan, Pierce, Harding, and Carter. This is the
> > > >> consensus
> > > >> of most historians. The rankings change with time, but most agree
> > > >> these
> > > >> are the worst. W. H. Harrisson and Garfield weren'y  president long
> > > >> enough
> > > >> to be evaluated.
> > > >> Paul's idea on elections has some merit and it would save the
> > > >> expenses of
> > > >> a runoff election.
> > > >> Roger
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original message-----
> > > >> From: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> > > >> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:24:43 -0800
> > > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > >>
> > > >>> With pleasure:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Estimated 800 Billion in new government spending for starters.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Massive tax hikes to pay for above. (a 39.6 percent personal
> > > >>> income tax,
> > > >>> a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent
> > > >>> capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent
> > > >>> death
> > > >>> tax, again just for starters. High likelihood of even higher rates
> > > >>> for
> > > >>> capital gains and death tax)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Enormous increases in government bureaucracy. (health care,
> > > >>> mortgages,
> > > >>> education, etc.)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Weakened military. (zero military or foreign affairs expertise)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Additional intrusion by the government into the most minute
> > > >>> aspects of
> > > >>> our daily lives.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Large increase in illegal immigration. (favors drivers licenses for
> > > >>> illegals, weak on border enforcement)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Disintegration of second amendment rights.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Erosion of first amendment rights. (fairness doctrine, additional
> > > >>> campaign finance reform)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Will drive more U.S. corporations overseas. (major increases in
> > > >>> tax rate
> > > >>> and regulation)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is just the tip of the iceberg, I could go on. Pretty much
> > > >>> all the
> > > >>> things that make you all warm and tingly down below are the things
> > > >>> that
> > > >>> make me pretty much sick to my stomach.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Would I be correct in assuming that your second paragraph with the
> > > >>> multiple snide remarks about GW was included as an example of the
> > > >>> sorts
> > > >>> of things I should avoid to merit the "extra credit" you spoke of
> > > >>> in the
> > > >>> first paragraph?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> g
> > > >>>   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>   From: keely emerinemix
> > > >>>   To: g. crabtree ; Chasuk ; Vision2020
> > > >>>   Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:32 PM
> > > >>>   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Please describe, Gary, why an Obama presidency would be a "horror
> > > >>> show."  Extra credit if you can do it without being snide.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Even if not measured against the current occupant we have in the
> > > >>> Oval
> > > >>> Office, Barack Obama would represent an enormous improvement in
> > > >>> brainpower, heart, and backbone, one for which I'll 
> enthusiastically
> > > >>> campaign.  Of course the next president will be compared to Bush,
> > > >>> which
> > > >>> will have the effect of further consigning Bush to the bottom of
> > > >>> the heap
> > > >>> of history's losers.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Keely
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> > > >>>> To: chasuk at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >>>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:26 -0800
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Run Ralph, Run! America needs you. (to help save us from the 
> horror
> > > >>> show
> > > >>>> that would be Obama)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> g
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
> > > >>>> To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:01 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential
> > > >>> campaign.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on
> > > >>> Sunday.
> > > >>>>> Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> A spokesman for Nader did not immediately return a call seeking
> > > >>> comment.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Kevin Zeese, who was Nader's spokesman during the 2004 
> presidential
> > > >>>>> race, but is no longer working for him, said Friday that Nader 
> has
> > > >>>>> been actively talking to "lots of people on all sorts of levels"
> > > >>> about
> > > >>>>> the possibility of making another run.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Zeese said he could only guess what Nader might do, but added:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "Obviously, I don't think ("Meet the Press" host) Tim Russert 
> would
> > > >>>>> have him on for no reason."
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Last month, Nader began an exploratory presidential campaign and
> > > >>>>> launched a Web site that promises to fight "corporate greed,
> > > >>> corporate
> > > >>>>> power, corporate control."
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
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