[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow

Darrell Keim keim153 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 11:59:54 PST 2008


Bill:

I wasn't saying the cost of the water was a minor point.  It is the point.
I was saying that my definition of "market price" vs Andreas definition was
a minor point.


On 08/02/2008, Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>  D-
> The price of Moscow's water sold to Hawkins is hardly a minor point.
> The water will be sold at "customary" rates.  We taxpayers will be
> responsible for upgrades, maintenance, etc when this amount increases
> demands on the system.
> This "deal" is no cash cow for Moscow.
> We taxpayers are left holding the bag.
> BL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* moscow vision 2020 <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:45 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow
>
>
> Andreas-It looks like we differ on the definition of "market price."  I
> say that market price is when I pay the same as everyone else.  That is not
> to say the market price everyone is paying isn't being subsidized by another
> party.  Oh well, it is really a minor point to the overall discussion.
>
> On 07/02/2008, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Darrell --
> >
> > Actually, they're paying less than market price for the water, even if
> > "market price" is the same as I pay for the water: the infrastructure
> > that provides the water is subsidized by the taxes I pay; taxes that
> > Hawkins won't.
> >
> > -- ACS
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2008 5:13 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Andreas-Your analogy doesn't quite hold up.  Hawkins (as you note)
> > isn't
> > > getting the water free.  They are paying market price.  If you offered
> > me
> > > market price for my car I may very well decide to sell it to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/02/2008, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 7, 2008 3:07 PM, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > > > > And what is it that makes "Moscow water" any different from
> > Pullman
> > > water or
> > > > > Yakima water or Richland water or Pendleton water or water pumped
> > in The
> > > > > Dalles?
> > > >
> > > > The same thing that makes "my car" different from "your car."
> > Hawkins
> > > > should be prevented from getting access to Moscow water at market
> > > > price for the same reason that you're not going to give me your car
> > > > for free.
> > > >
> > > > I might also note that both Idaho's and Washington's water law gives
> > > > preferential treatment to prior users. Which includes literally
> > > > everyone in Moscow over the Hawkins devolpment.
> > > >
> > > > -- ACS
> > >
> >
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