[Vision2020] The Human Toll

Mon Nov 19 15:22:14 PST 2007

As I will be out of the AO for the next few days . . .

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"The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of
the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we'd
have to do once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new government
in place. It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how long
you'd have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining
the outcome of the struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as
a classic definition of a quagmire." - Dick Cheney, 1991 
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3

And Dick Cheney again in 1994
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a8_1186873756

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"I think Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the president made a big mistake in
justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of
mass destruction." - Gerald R. Ford (July 28, 2004)
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Ford_Iraq_Big_Mistake.mp3

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>From the November 26, 2007 edition of the Army Times - 			

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U.S. service members who died while supporting combat operations in Iraq,
confirmed by the Defense Department from November 9 through November 15:

Army Sgt. Derek R. Banks, 24, of Newport News, Virginia; assigned to the
237th Engineer Company, 276th Engineer Battalion, 91st Troop Command,
Virginia National Guard, West Point, Virginia.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3190010.html

Army Sgt. Kenneth R. Booker, 25, of Vevay, Indiana; assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd
Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3194052.html

Army Sgt. Steven C. Ganczewski, 22, of Niagara Falls, New York; assigned to
the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Georgia.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3194075.html

Army Sgt. Christopher R. Kruse, 23, of Emporia, Kansas; assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd
Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3187100.html

Army Sgt. Mason L. Lewis, 26, of Gloucester, Virginia; assigned to the 26th
Brigade Support Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division,
Fort Stewart, Georgia.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3194071.html

Army Pfc. Casey P. Mason, 22, of Lake, Michigan; assigned to the 728th
Military Police Battalion, 8th Military Police Brigade, 8th Theater
Sustainment Command, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. 
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3187088.html

Army Cpl. Peter W. Schmidt, 30, of Eureka, California; assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd
Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3187115.html

Army Spc. Ashley Sietsema, 20, of Melrose Park, Illinois; assigned to the
708th Medical Company, 108th Medical Battalion, 108th Sustainment Brigade,
Illinois National Guard, North Riverside, Illinois.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3190439.html

November 9 - November 15
Killed: 8; wounded in action: 38

March 19, 2003 - November 15, 2007 
Killed: 3,851; wounded in action: 28,489

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The following U.S. service members died while supporting combat operations
in Afghanistan, confirmed by the Defense Department from November 9 through
November 15:

Army Capt. David A. Boris, 30, of Pennsylvania; assigned to 1st Squadron,
91st Cavalry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Schweinfurt,
Germany. 
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3190019.html

Army Spc. Adrian E. Hike, 26, of Callender, Iowa; assigned to 1st Squadron,
91st Cavalry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Schweinfurt,
Germany. 
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/3190029.html

Army 2nd Lt. Stuart F. Liles, 26, of Hot Springs, Arkansas; assigned to the
122nd Aviation Support Battalion, 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, 82nd
Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/3190600.html

November 9 - November 15
Killed: 3; Wounded in action: 27

Oct. 10, 2001 - November 15, 2007
Killed: 464; Wounded in action: 1,781

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National Guard (In Federal Status) and Reserve Mobilized 
(as of November 14, 2007) 
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2007/d20071114ngr.pdf

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And the beat goes on . . . 

"Bring 'em Home"
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Bring_em_home.mp3

"If you love this land of the free 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Bring them back from overseas 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

It will make the politicians sad, I know 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
They wanna tangle with their foe 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

They wanna test their grand theories 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
With the blood of you and me 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

Now we'll give no more brave young lives 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
For the gleam in someone's eyes 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The men will cheer and the boys will shout 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah and we will all turn out 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The church bells will ring with joy 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
To welcome our darlin' girls and boys 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

We will lift our voice and sound 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home." 

Seeya Saturday, Moscow.

Pro patria, 

Tom Hansen 
Moscow, Idaho

"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil
and steady dedication of a lifetime." -- Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.